Well, yesterday (September 12), the Trudeau lawyers filed a six-page response to the FTC's motion (Document 748). The deadline for reply is Monday, September 16. I shared this document on a couple of Facebook forums yesterday evening but wanted to share it with a wider audience.
Reading over this new document, as well as the latest versions of both the civil and the criminal dockets, I noticed one thing: First, as of September 12, Kevin still has the same attorneys, which as you may know is contrary to what the Schadenfreude twins, Loony Coldwell and his "little brother" Abe Husein, have been saying for a couple of months now. There has been some concern that Katie's lawyers would quit because he may no longer be able to pay them. But so far, it looks as if they have not quit yet.
This new civil case document is basically about Katie's attorneys' claim that he really, really is a poor boy now and deserves the modest allowance previously approved by the court for his basic and necessary living expenses.
The lawyers argue, among other things, that it is unrealistic to expect him to get a real job, as he is a convicted felon with another criminal trial coming up, and employers tend to frown on that sort of thing. Now, those of us who live in the real world know that this is not necessarily true. What about all of those public school districts and churches and day care centers and nursing homes and hospitals that are always making the evening news because it has been discovered that a drunken bus driver or naughty teacher or predatory preacher or evil caretaker or killer nurse has a rap sheet a mile long, and was hired with no background check? In light of this, you'd think that a simple scammer should be able to get a decent job somewhere.
My friend Paul on Facebook wrote, "I think the FTC should hire KT as the building janitor and groundskeeper there and pay him $50K a year. He would have to work 8 hours a day Monday through Friday and 6 hours every other Saturday. This would eliminate the argument from KT's lawyers about him not realistically being able to get a job because he is a convicted felon."
That doesn't sound like a bad idea at all to me. But as several people have pointed out, Trudeau teaches that you can start a business even if you're flat broke, and he has boasted that he could go anywhere in the US and find a job within 24 hours. So, felon or not, he should have no problem finding gainful employment.
The lawyers also complain that Kevin can't make a living in the way he is accustomed because he has been forbidden from doing so. And that is just so cruel. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, scammers gotta scam.
The lawyers lament that he can't even get government benefits, such as unemployment benefits, because he is not entitled to them, since most of his income was earned overseas (more on that in a little while).
In short, they say the FTC is just picking on poor Katie and punishing him unnecessarily.
The violins are playing, but I am still not weeping for him.
The lawyers actually do make some logical (legal) arguments to back up their claims. But still I find that no tears come when I think of Katie having to get a job. An ex-GIN pal of mine writes, "I don't see KT as a victim here personally. Remember in Your Wish Is Your Command teachings, everything that happens in your life, you create. You get an accident, you created it; you get fired from your job, you created it -- which personally think is hogwash --[but] Kt created this mess. It's time he starts walking the walk instead of acting the victim. Goes to show Kt does not practice what he preaches."
And isn't that so often the story with the scammers of Scamworld?
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As usual when a new Katie court document emerges, we're hearing distortions and exaggerations from the Loony C and Little Buddy camp. Earlier this morning Abe had this to say on Facebook:
LMFAO!!!!! GIN UPDATE!! KY is now asking the court for government benefits such as welfare! He is beyond desperate at this point. The new video that he made (illegally) a few days ago was talking about how he is holding a fundraiser in Washington. He is offering level 7 "training" for only $1,000. But that money wouldn't go to GIN, it would go directly to him, which is of course is against the court order. Who in their right mind would still follow such a low life loser like KY?? Only truly brain dead zombies who want to go to the poor house with them. I can see it now, the next GIN seminar, "How to obtain government benefits". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Loony Coldwell responded with a comment that if the D.C. GIN Family Reunion happens, "we will sue the receiver and the FTC." Loony is on a roll now with his lawsuits; he claims that he is initiating a class action lawsuit against GIN/KT, and that so far he has over 200 people wanting to join it. He says the law firm of Merritt Webb will probably be handling it. Knowing Loony's history of lawsuit claims, including the class action lawsuit he was supposedly going to file against GIN/KT back in May of 2012, I'll believe that when I see it.
I'll grant that it would be more than a little humorous if Katie had been trying to get welfare benefits. After all, he has been known to gripe about "entitlement" programs and people who are on the dole. I remember one notoriously racist example from June 2011 -- an example that made it to this Whirled.
But to tell the truth, I have not seen any indication so far that Katie has been asking the courts for welfare. The monthly allowance that the court has already approved (and that the FTC doesn't want to let stand) is not welfare. You may agree with the FTC that he doesn't deserve that money unless he gets a job, but technically it's not welfare. In fact, the only reference I have seen to government benefits in conjunction with Katie was a passing mention on the latest court document, on page 3. It was lumped in with the lamentation about Katie's unemployability and the infeasibility of third-party assistance. Here's that paragraph, in its entirety (bolding mine):
Now, if more documents emerge that indicate Trudeau really has been trying in earnest to get "government benefits," then I will grab the docs if I can, and I will amend this post. But for now, it appears that the welfare claims are just more irritating background noise from Loony and his little bro. (In fact, Abe was obviously spoon-fed his "information" from Loony, who wrote this on Abe's wall very late Thursday evening September 12, several hours after I had shared the document on a publicly viewable forum on Facebook:)The FTC claims that Trudeau must either obtain other employment or rely on the generosity of friends and family members to provide for his living expenses. This is disingenuous. Because Trudeau is a convicted felon, with a criminal trial pending, it would be nearly impossible for him to find employment elsewhere. Moreover, Trudeau cannot simply rely on the generosity of others to pay for his personal living expenses, because any monies given to him by third parties must be turned over to the Receiver. See (D.E. 742 at 8-9.) Nor can Trudeau rely on government benefits to pay for his basic living expenses because his income has been earned overseas. For example, Trudeau would not qualify for unemployment benefits in Illinois. See 820 ILCS 405 et seq. The FTC is aware of these stark realities, but seeks to deny Trudeau the payment of ordinary and necessary living expenses purely out of its unrelenting desire to punish Trudeau.
Loony just pulled that "food stamps" speculation out of his behind, which is where much of his information originates.
What about some of the other issues? A pro-GIN Facebook pal of mine noted that the footnote on page 1 of the latest doc was "just stellar":
1 In light of the Receiver’s first report (D.E. 747) it is becoming increasingly clear that there is no pot of gold waiting at the end of the rainbow for the FTC – there simply are no significant assets controlled by Trudeau that can be used to pay down the $37 million judgment against him.
One point to remember is that, as noted above, this latest court document was produced by Kevin's lawyers in response to the FTC's motion for a modification in the receivership order. As such, the lawyers are certainly going to do their best to present the FTC as bullies and their client as a poor guy who is just struggling to do the right thing. Some may argue that the facts laid out in the document speak for themselves, but let's face it: the lawyers are putting a bit of a dramatic spin on it, IMO, as lawyers often do (including, for their part, the FTC lawyers).
I think that the Trudeau attorneys' slightly snarky "no pot of gold" remark was a little misleading, especially since they cited the receiver's initial report to back their claim, and the receiver has really only just begun digging. I realize that according to the report, no significant assets have been found so far, but presumably the forensic investigators are just warming up.
That ex-GIN friend of mine I quoted above shared an oft-expressed sentiment when he wrote, "Trust me, Kt has income coming in, cash hidden away, and he could cash in some gold jewelry, etc. Plus I have a feeling diehard GIN members are handing him cash." (Which is presumably contrary to the receivership order, and thus illegal, but you never know.)
My friend added, "If [Neo-Tech head] Mark Scamilton made 10 million-plus in GIN commissions alone between 2009 and 2013, Kt made at least twice that last four years -- so where is it? Not to mention he sold how many Natural Cures books?"
Well, that's what the receiver is trying to find out now. It's possible that a lot of that filthy lucre has already been squandered on Katie's notorious Bentleys-and-pricey-cigars lifestyle, not to mention the fancy digs in Zurich, and Katie's wife's lingerie fund. If the receiver ultimately fails to find significant assets to pay the FTC fine, this will either indicate that Trudeau and his co-conspirator Marc Lane were too clever even for the Feds, and Kevin has assets that are safely out of the government's reach (a prospect that will have his fans cheering)... or it will indicate that Kevin is not, after all, the billionaire he has led his fans to believe he is. It may emerge that while he seems to be great at making money and spending money and getting others to spend money on his schemes, he is not so great at keeping it.
So, despite what many of his fans seem to think, Katie does not appear to be the best role model for success, at least if one's definition of success includes financial responsibility. Granted, not all of these points are directly relevant to the court cases, but they are still important for the fans and followers and potential customers of Kevin Trudeau to consider.
As I noted above, for better or for worse, the FTC, the receiver, and the judge who appointed the receiver and approved that receivership order have Kevin backed into a pretty tight corner now -- and it is abundantly clear that the FTC wants to make it even tighter. We all may have differing opinions as to whether this is justice (in either the legal or poetic sense), or a travesty of justice, but the fact of the receivership seems clear enough, and there's a lot of talk about whether or not the Global Information Network (GIN) leadership is being completely honest with the membership about what is happening.
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Regarding the government's and the courts' treatment of Trudeau, I don't think it's all that black-and-white, as you probably know by now. But I do think that Kevin's nearly lifelong history as a hustler and scammer has influenced the FTC's actions and the court's decisions thus far; how could it not? And I definitely think that consumers need to be aware of Trudeau's history, because he has not reformed; he has continued to scam, and apparently his scams have hurt many people.
You should know, however, that in the criminal contempt case, which is set to go to trial November 4, Trudeau's lawyers filed a pre-trial motion to keep all of that "history" and several other issues from being argued or presented before the jury. Given the possiblity of a life prison sentence, that seems fair enough. But on the other side of that are the numerous motions filed by the government to keep all of Kevin's own standard defenses and arguments from being presented before the jury. Moreover, the government does not want the jury to be told of the potential penalty that the judge -- not the jury -- will impose if the jury finds him guilty of criminal contempt. (Don't hate me for possibly misplaced compassion, but that actually bothers me a little.)
At any rate, we also have to keep in mind that these controversial court cases are not about GIN, although GIN and its remaining members are affected by the restrictions currently placed on KT in the civil case. Some say the court and receiver are hurting all of the GIN members as well as Kevin Trudeau, and to counter this, they are coordinating ill-advised campaigns to let the receiver know exactly how they feel. I think these GIN defenders' energies would be better put towards asking themselves this: Have they been hurt more by the court's recent actions, or by their fearless leader's schemes and manipulations and his constant attempts to clean out their wallets?
That is really the core issue that they -- and not the courts -- must decide, no matter how the court cases are resolved.
I won't deny that there are several grounds on which to criticize the FTC -- not just for the Trudeau cases but also for the way they have handled (or failed to handle) other cases. But this does not change my personal opinion that Kevin Trudeau is a serial scammer, and GIN is a scam.
And let's not even get into the B-list scammers whose careers Kevin has nurtured and enabled through GIN. We'll leave some of those -- such as Peter Ragnar, aka Peter Lundell (I know, I've been promising that for well over a year), and the notorious Eli Rook, aka Dylan Benjamin -- for future posts.
P.S. The only new item on the criminal docket is an entry made September 9, saying that the responses to the aforementioned pre-trial motions (filed on September 6) are due September 23, and replies are due September 30.
More True-dough on this Whirled:
- September 2013: Ex-Trudeau buddy Loony Leonard Coldwell accuses court-appointed receiver of criminal activity
- September 2013: Neo-stinker Mark Scamilton cleaned up in GIN -- everyone else, not so much
- September 2013: Kevin Trudeau's opulent lifestyle in danger (maybe), while the Scamworld Express chugs along
- August 2013: Man made famous by Kevin Trudeau tells you how to cure aging, death, tumors, herpes, and ugliness
- August 2013: Kevin Trudeau smacked around again by ABC, while Loony Lenny & Captain Winky sell speed
- August 2013: Kevin Trudeau: things heat up as criminal trial approaches
- July 2013: No cage for Katie (sorry, Lenny)
- July 2013: Leonard Coldwell and Kevin Trudeau: love and marriage and pots and kettles
- July 2013: Kevin Trudeau asks court to let him go to Zurich, FTC sez no, judge sez no too
- July 2013: Kevin Trudeau: The FTC is really, really mad now...sort of
- July 2013: Kevin Trudeau: Gone fishing? Or something...
- July 2013: Kevin Trudeau: Rumors, lies, and SNAG support
- June 2013: The Health Ranger: another phony hero in the fight against Scamworld?
- June 2013: Kevin Trudeau in court again: Something big... something really big!... or maybe not
- June 2013: Kevin Trudeau and justice: muddy waters
- May 2013: ABC has fun with Kevin Trudeau, and life goes on
- May 2013: ABC tackles Kevin Trudeau -- again!
- May 2013: Kevie goes a-courtin': pleading the Fifth
- May 2013: Kevin Trudeau: Justice...or just more paper shuffling?
- May 2013: Kevin Trudeau: Countdown to court date (or not)
- May 2013: Kevin Trudeau + Mark Hamilton = GIN with a twist of Neo-stink
- April 2013: Bankruptcy: GIN members await Level 7 while Kevin Trudeau files Chapter 7
- March 2013: Ryan Kath at KSHB-TV does Trudeau/GIN update, Coldwell & Wink continue to scam with cheap imitation of GIN
- February 2013: Kevin Trudeau's GIN: The sky is falling (again)...yawn
- February 2013: Loony Coldwell: Cheesy video and bad spelling
- February 2013: IBMS Master's Society Supreme Loony Coldwell strikes again
- February 2013: Faux heroes and hypocrisy in action
- February 2013: Meet the new scam, same as the old scam, Part 2
- January 2013: Vital signs: "Immortal" (former) breatharian Mony Vital dies on GIN cruise
- January 2013: Meet the new scam, same as the old scam, Part 1
- December 2012: 2012 ~ The Whirled goes on
- November 2012: Kevin Trudeau: justice delayed...again
- November 2012: Kevin Trudeau exposé on KSHB-TV: buzz, backlash, and big beginnings
- November 2012: Alien nation: just how crazy is Kevin Trudeau (not to mention his sheeple)?
- November 2012: Kevin Trudeau: KSHB-TV undercover investigation
- November 2012: Kevin Trudeau gets some more mainstream lovin'
- October 2012: Evil has not won
- October 2012: Kevin Trudeau: Rats in our heads, GIN down the toilet...and life goes on
- October 2012: Kevin Trudeau: The shape of things to come?
- September 2012: Leonard Coldwell and Fred Van Liew: Pot, meet kettle
- August 2012: Truth is better than GIN any day
- July 2012: Drunk on GIN, and you can too!
- July 2012: Kevin Trudeau's GIN: part of the big sick machine
- July 2012: Independence Daze
- May 2012 (updated September 2012): Paging Dr. C: Bernd bridges in Deutschland?
- May 2012: Can alien DNA save Kevin Trudeau's GIN?
- May 2012: Does a canary with a GIN hangover sing as sweetly?
- April 2012: Viva Lost Wages: Sin City Become GIN City for a weekend
- February 2012: A. Rose by any other name would shill as sweet
- December 2011: True-dough updates: Bad poetry for KT, hate mail for CC
- November 2011: A jumpsuit for Jimmy
- August 2011: First Amendment Stuporhero
- August 2011: Everything old is Nouveau again (or, Neo-scam by any other name) -- Part 2 of 2
- August 2011: Calling all lazy men: let's build a pyramid together!
- August 2011: Everything old is Nouveau again (or, Neo-scam by any other name), Part 1 of 2
- June 2011: Holy Guacamole! True-dough's racist rants
- June 2011: For he's a jolly good felon: True-dough speaks out for Death Ray
- December 2009 (amended several times in 2010): Illuminutty: the secret brotherhood of the chronically gullible
- November 2009: How to take over the world
- July 2009: Horse farts and related matters
- January 2009: Mr. Fire meets up with true dough
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