Monday, May 28, 2012

Can alien DNA save Kevin Trudeau's GIN?

As reported here a few days ago, the infamous Kevin Trudeau's scammy Global Information Network (GIN) ship seems to be sinking as more members wake up to the awful possibility that they've been had. As in scammed, flim-flammed, bamboozled. Things apparently haven't been going well in GIN for quite a while, but the fearless leader has been fighting to keep it going. One of the more recent bits of scuttlebutt I've seen is that True-dough has been telling his inner circle -- some of whom have apparently paid $75,000 or more for that privileged status -- that he possesses alien DNA and that they do too, which makes them very, very special and 'splains why they were drawn to each other. And I don't think KT is talking about illegal aliens, whom he has lambasted on his radio show, but about extraterrestrials.

Notwithstanding the fact that the late Carl Sagan once said, "
We are all made of star stuff," that does seem a little out-there, even for KT. But there's marketing method to his madness. It seems that the alien tale is at least partly in the service of inspiring the top guys to get more sheeple to sign up for GIN so that as many folks as possible can have access to some exclusive 2012 knowledge that KT the ET will only share with people who have achieved a Level 3 or higher state of GIN intoxication.

Maybe you're needing a little background information about KT's 2012 shtick. If so, and if you have 18-plus minutes to waste -- 18 minutes that you will never get back, and bandwidth that you or someone is paying for --
here's a video where KT promises that he will be delivering earth-shattering, mind-blowing, life-changing information about 2012. If you want to see a lying, manipulative sociopath at work, this is a prime example.

In this vid, KT spends a lot of energy and time saying basically nothing, other than to assure us that he knows something we don't know, neener-neener-neener. And, he assures us, this is information that everybody absotively, posilutely has to know to survive, or at least to be successful and happy during, the possibly-apocalyptic alignment/planetary shift/global pole-reversal/space-time discombobulation thingy
that will be happening on or about December 21, 2012. He's going to reveal it all in a two-hour webinar, the date of which keeps changing.

You may be asking: "If this info is so utterly important for everyone to know, why isn't he giving it away for free, for the good of humanity?" Well, I'll tell you, Mr., Ms., or Dr. Smarty Pants. At around 12:11 on the vid he lays it out: "Because, folks, I'm not going to give away for free what I've spent a lifetime developing." He goes on to mention the valuable relationships he has spent a lifetime building (most notably, relationships with those seekrit GIN council members -- Bilderbergers, Skull-and-Bones members and so forth -- who, he claims, are actually giving him the 2012 info). And of course he mentions the millions of dollars he has spent fighting evil governments who want to take away his right to free speech.

So nuh-uh, he is not giving it away for free, no how, no way. If people are not willing to pay for this data, they don't deserve to get it. You have to EARN the right to this information. But it will be worth it, really it will, because only KT has the lowdown about exactly what is going to happen around the time of the Winter Solstice 2012 (or the Summer Solstice, if you're in That Other Hemisphere). Everyone else who has ever written, spoken, speculated, or even vaguely thought about December 21, 2012 has it completely wrong, sez KT. So there.

Some of the disenchanted GIN members are speculating that this is a last-ditch money grab on KT's part before GIN collapses entirely, and/or KT's legal woes finally catch up to him.

But what about this alien stuff? Well, it kind of popped up on Facebook the other day. KT's former b.f.f. and now-disgruntled ex-front man Leonard Coldwell, the former Bernd Klein (aka Bernd Witchner) of Germany, made a couple of references to it. I'll just quote snippets, and you can try to follow the links provided to see the entire conversations. I can't guarantee that you will be able to access the pages; if you're not a Facebook member and/or friends with one or more of the participants you may be locked out. As soon as I find more accessible links to KT's "alien" claims then I will share them.

So far it appears that KT is mainly telling the alien story to his inner circle guys, and some of them are spilling the beans to Lenny, and Lenny is scuttling with the crumbs of gossip back to the growing anthill on Facebook. The following are remarks that Lenny made on the wall of a recently awakened GIN member named Abe (who is now making his own efforts to educate people about KT's lies). Sez Lenny:

I have just heard from a member that he the master manipulator, tells the inner circle members HE is an Alien with special DNA ?- I am still laughing !!!...
If you listen to the last update you know exactly what members are complaining about and how many. Buy the way even if some clowns think they can simply make up their own rules, lawfully they cant! If you exercise your 1st amendment right in public or private, no one can get thrown out of any club in the world for that. Plus your downline is your personal property and not for anyone else to take over. There could be so many civil and criminal violations in these kind of threats that my lawyer simply was shaking his head when he told me the information above. So no worry say and write what you think no one can throw you out of any club for exercising your constitutional rights. Some people have lost their sense of reality ( God complex ) ( plus he is telling people he is a space alien and they became a member in his personal brainwashing club because they have alien DNA too and attract each other)...
Here is the full story: Just spoke to [an] inner circle member: they have to write down a [command] for 7 days 70 times! Wow magic, Voodoo, or is he simply laughing his b... off how stupid these people are. Man they get a lot for $50 000 or $75 000 are they all going to be magicians ?
He promotes his December 21st 2012 revelations so that you upgrade to level 3, all BS he does not know anything he called me and I have the phone record, to ask me what I think or know is going to happen. I give you all the info for free please come for free no seminar fee to my June 9th seminar info... The seminar will be followed by the discussion group: “ My life after Gin “ And by the way nothing will happen that day [Dec. 21] it will be a normal day as usual but I will tell you exactly what will go on the next 4 years after that date.
That bit about using a magickal "command" somehow reminds me of Joe Vitale's and Pat O'Bryan's lame Psychic Demand frauduct. Both Joe and Pat have expressed great admiration for KT in recent years and have even hung out with him briefly. But I digress. I have a feeling Lenny is right about KT laughing his butt off about how gullible his victims are. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that KT has been laughing at them for years. Hucksters often have contempt for their marks, even as they pretend to care about them.

Now, I realize that some people are going to tell me that you have to consider the source. Lenny is clearly mad at KT, even though for a couple of years he benefited handsomely from his association with GIN and KT -- and vice-versa, if we're to believe the numerous folks who say they joined GIN because of Lenny. Lenny is selling his own infofrauducts and flopportunities and MLM-ish stuff. Lenny makes extravagant and unsubstantiated claims about having cured -- yes, cured -- thousands of people of cancer and other diseases. But he's no M.D.; he has questionable-at-best credentials and a "mysterious" past. We know very little about his life in Germany before he moved to the US and changed his name. Bottom line for me is that whenever Lenny goes on about what a bad guy KT is and how the leopard doesn't change his spots, I have to seriously restrain myself from saying, "Well, that's a case of the pot calling the kettle black," or, "The leopard usually doesn't change his spots, but sometimes he changes his name." But I don't because I'm too polite.

The point is that despite my not being a fan of Lenny (oh, does it show?), I have to say that his dishy gossip sounds true, based on what I know of KT's M.O and penchant for tall tales. I'm still trying to find out if True-dough was really just being openly facetious or deliberately outrageous to cheer his top guys up a little. But I'm thinking not. And, assuming that he was really trying to get people to believe in his alien provenance, do the presumably educated grownups who had $75,000 or more to give to KT and GIN actually believe it? Surely not, or they wouldn't be taking the tale to Lenny now. But if they don't believe it, are they nonetheless trying to use that story, or a version thereof, to continue to sign up more suckers for GIN? And if they are doing that, doesn't it make them part of the problem, and doesn't it mean they are people for whom I shouldn't feel as much sympathy as I do some of the rank-and-file members? If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, please enlighten me.

In any event, I may have been prescient
back in December of 2009 when I first wrote about GIN and KT's tall tale about the seekrit brotherhood:
I have to wonder what True-dough will come up with next: perhaps the revelation that he has been receiving coded messages from the Pleiades since he was a child? Or that he discovered a lost tribe of sparkly blue people during his world travels, and they are the ones who truly possess the wisdom of the ages, which they taught to him and him alone? (He can always accuse James Cameron of stealing his idea.) Or maybe the startling confession that when he was in prison in the 1990s, someone slipped him some ancient secret scrolls from the Lemurians who dwell beneath Mount Shasta? (Actually, when he was in prison he did meet a guy, a former cocaine dealer named Jules Lieb, who became a joint-venture partner with him after the two men got out of da joint. Said JV was a company called Nutrition for Life, for which he and Jules were later sued by the State of Illinois for operating an illegal pyramid scheme.)...
As it happens, though I didn't know it yet at the time I wrote that post, when KT was in prison he also met Frank R. Wallace, the founder of seekrit-knowledge clearinghouse NouveauTech/NovaTech/Neo-Tech/Neothink/NovusTek.

I'm not sure if KT's alien DNA makes him related to
Access Consciousness' humanoids or not, but I'll do some more research and see what I can come up with.

At any rate, things must be desperate in GINland. Here,
in four parts, is a video of KT trying to rally the troops to hang in there and help him grow GIN in 2012. Notice how in the first one he mentions smarmy Mark Scamilton, son of Frank Wallace and current head of Neo-Tech. Some speculate that Scamilton is the only GIN affiliate who is actually making lots of money from the deal. And I speculate that True-dough got a lot of his "secret info" stuff from Scamilton's rich archives.

At the end of Part 4 of the vid, KT gets all teary-eyed and emotional as he goes on about the "magnificent responsibility" of GIN membership and tells the members, "I love you guys!" Sociopathy in action, that.

It occurs to me that this video is actually worth an entire blog post in itself, which may be forthcoming, though I won't make promises about when, because I am a little busy right now. That's why I'm trying to get as much stuff crammed into this one post as possible. For now, though,
there's this, if you can see it: a chronicle of the emails KT had one of his minions send out to placate the "Precious Platinums" and 'splain why their bonuses and other promised goodies weren't being delivered. Apparently at one point KT sent out a long contract for affiliates to sign -- a contract that they'd never seen before. Presumably, if they didn't sign it they would not get their bonuses, even if the bonuses eventually became available.
Confidentiality & Decorum-
Attached to this email is a confidentiality agreement. You may also access the agreement by clicking here

You are also bound by the Affiliate and Member Agreements at all times. We take these documents very seriously. Since you are going to be privy to membership revenues and sensitive information that cannot be made public, please read and sign the attached agreement and send it to:
Again, my apologies if you can't access the Facebook conversations. But a guy named Bernie O'Mahony has started a public forum for people to share their GIN experiences. It's called gintruth. com.

Have I been too hard on KT's victims?
The above-mentioned Abe seems to be a really nice guy. I don't know if he's read all of my KT posts on this blog yet, but he has read some of them. And he wrote to me the other day that while he appreciates the stuff I've written, he thinks I may have been too hard on some of the victims of True-dough's lies. "It can happen to the best of us," he noted. That's true; none of us is immune to being manipulated. I told him that I am trying to learn to be more compassionate.

And I am.

But sometimes compassion is difficult for me, particularly when some of the victims are still greedily gulping the GIN punch while so earnestly and passionately arguing on KT's behalf. And I shake my head when I see how some of them have bought KT's martyr/hero story hook, line, and sinker. True, some are starting to doubt that Brotherhood/seekrit-society stuff. But they're struggling to hold on to the beliefs nonetheless. I saw this convo on Facebook the other day (names have been changed and no links are provided):

TC: If KT was really in the Brotherhood, if it exists, wouldn't he have been killed by the evil cabal members?
DN: Well, really they rarely kill people. 1st option is to ridicule and spread as much dirt around as possible and discredit the individual so that whatever they have to say won't be accepted by the main stream public. I suppose that if millions and millions around the globe joined GIN, and were actually posing a threat, then yes he would be targeted for assassination.
TC: If what Abraham Hicks teaches is true, wouldn't she [Esther Hicks ~CC] have been killed because KT says the elites do not want us to know our brains are transmitters and receivers of frequency?
DN: As long as it doesn't reach (what might [be] termed) critical mass, then NO she wouldn't. As far as KT is concerned [if he] was able to use mass media like MSNBC, FOX, CNN etc... to reach millions and those millions started to WAKE UP and started using this POWER, then there would be some immediate action. Notice that KT doesn't reveal everything to everyone even in his beloved GIN. This probably is skating along the edge, but I doubt that it will get him killed.
Also... not killing him kind of discredits some of the conpiracy arguements. If they killed him now they risk turning all he has said into a full blown cross country riot.
TC: So DN, I am asking you as someone who is constantly asking questions and someone who wants to learn more, is their really an attraction force with our minds?
DN: Yes definitely. I truly believe that. We are doing it all the time, but just that we discriminate and judge and prejudge and get in our own way of things. We trip ourselves up all the time.
BeamMeUp Scotty: You got it all wrong people don't leave because the benefits are so INCREDIBLE
DN: I never said any such thing Scotty. Where did you get that from?If people leave GIN it is because it is their path to leave, but this is waaay off topic to what is being discussed here. I think
BeamMeUp Scotty: ?"If KT was really in the Brotherhood, if it exists, wouldn't he have been killed by the evil cabal members?" TC post
DN: Oh I see ;) Right. I'd put that fear to rest.
Matty: GIN is one of the BEST things that has ever happened to me. I am so blessed and so are you if you chose to see it! =) Love you everyone
BeamMeUp Scotty: YOU THE MAN MATTY !!!
One can detect the doubts creeping in, the agonizing battle to hang on to the last threads of belief. (By the way, as you may know, imaginary-friends inventors Abe-Hicks, another of my favorite snargets, have been on the recommended reading list for GIN members.) The good news is that, based upon more recent postings, some of the participants in the above exchange now seem to be leaning more heavily towards a skeptical view of KT and GIN. It's a start.

The bad news is that there are still some very determined GIN cheerleaders. And predictably, they're invading the skeptics' Facebook threads, attempting to discredit them and tell the rest of us what a wonderful experience GIN has been for them, and how much of a hero KT is. Wrote one:

just imagin [sic] what he has had to go through to help so many, if I had to give away millions and live on the street to have his back id [sic] do it in a heartbeat...
There's no sense arguing with those folks. But I am heartily encouraged when I see people countering the GIN cheerleaders on the very threads that the latter are trying to hijack. I've been snarking about KT and GIN for years now, but this one comment by a guy named David sums up most of the problems very concisely:
Everything that KT has written or talked about is easily found through research or via the internet, he's the king of Plagiarism, we can all find answers, we can all motivate, there are many open course given by the top universities, we can become autodidacts. The real issue here is the affiliate aspect of GIN. This is not a members owned, Secret Council Driven entity, it is a massive Ponzi Scheme. People were lured into thinking they would be making money, have a successful life of financial freedom. He has persuaded people to buy into higher levels in order to achieve more money and for people to have a chance to enter into an "inner circle" of the GIN Elite. This was done by lies, deception and fraud. So many sheeple would believe this so called "Brotherhood Member", they were seduced by his deception, successful lifestyle and his manipulation of words, He would degrade people for not reaching higher paying levels in GIN...the sounds of a carnival barker, or one of these clowns from these underground religious or secret cults. These seminars were not free, a monthly membership fee was due, Same with the trips or any of the educational materials. The cost to maintain a website and to handle the bandwitdth is really insignificant compared to the money coming in monthly from all the GIN Memberships, the typical MLM company works on a 60% cost of revenue for expenses, overhead, products and services and commission and a 40% profit for the founders. So if there are 100,000 paying monthly members @ $150. per month KT was making $6,000,000.00 per month (40%). Not to include other monies generated from GIN. No one will [ever] know as the laws in Nevis protect him from any US or UK judgements, any lawsuits that anyone would file would have to pay a lot of money for a bond and to retain an attorney, he never has to reveal his books, unless someone can prove drug laundering or acts of terrorism. With every elaborate ponzi scheme when the jig is up it's over for the members,
As you may know, GIN is "organized" in Nevis, and more people seem to be waking up to the fact that this was a ploy to keep GIN money in KT's pocket and out of the hands of his victims. Nevis offers many business advantages for oily hucksters.

The real message
I would just love to go on snarking about KT's tall tales, but I have been doing that for years. So for now I'll wrap this up with some profoundly shallow thoughts for all of the newly disillusioned who have jumped ship and are searching for a lifeboat. It's also for the soon-to-be disillusioned. Take this for what it's worth to you, and even if you think it doesn't apply to you, maybe it applies to someone you know.

  1. Waking up from the GIN delusion and the evil influence of True-dough is a healthy first step, but plotting to form a new version of GIN or a similar networking org is just carrying on the con under a different name and different leadership. You're still not going to get rich trying to talk other people out of money they don't have. Merely forming a group of like-minded people for the purpose of moral support or informal networking isn't evil in and of itself, of course, and it may even be helpful for some. But be extremely careful whom you look to as your "leader" in this new effort, particularly if that person is selling something too. Which brings us to point number 2.
  2. Some of the higher-ups and KT's former cronies, front men, staff members, and random shills may be good sources of information and juicy gossip about what has really been going on behind the scenes with GIN and KT, but it's a pretty sure bet that they're just out for themselves. (Some of you may be rolling your eyes at my love of stating the obvious.) Though some ex-KT team members seem to be making bold and courageous statements and even baiting KT's lawyers the way they used to try to bait the US gummit, and though they're lapping up all of your thanks and praises for their "heroic" efforts, rest assured that they are also doing whatever necessary to cover their own a$$es. (Besides, as I mentioned in my previous post, if they're as smart as they look, they had to have known that GIN was all a big con a long time ago -- or at the very least they had to have known that the biggest marketing hooks were outright lies. They're singing now mainly because they've been shafted.) They may talk a good game of looking out for your interests, but they're looking out for theirs. No matter how much of a Mr. Nice Guy act they put on, no matter how many virtual "Hugs" they send you on Facebook, no matter how many sappy "I love and respect you, man" bromance lines they lay on you, they are primarily out for themselves, and if they're interested in you at all, it's probably as a name on their mailing list. Perhaps I belabor the point, but maybe it's a point worth belaboring.
  3. If you think you've been kicked out of or blocked from GIN merely because you called out KT, or just because you asked some long-overdue questions about some of the tall tales used to market GIN, or simply because you asked why a promised bonus is months overdue, so what? Why on Earth would you still want to be in GIN? You can carry on about your First Amendment rights (which legally only apply in the US anyway, and isn't GIN supposed to be an international organization?), but maybe you should consider reframing your battle. Whether you want to talk about the First Amendment or a more globally applicable right to free expression, don't make this about your right to remain in GIN. Don't even make it about your right to protect your downline (see number 1, re carrying on the con). Make it about your general right to educate people on exactly what a lifelong huckster KT is and what a con GIN is. Believe me, I'm not saying that the right to free speech is unimportant. To the contrary: it's the central issue here. Never mind that KT has been misusing and trivializing this very issue all along, and that he has manipulated many already financially strapped folks into contributing to his legal defense fund; free speech is an issue that concerns anyone who has ever spoken out about a scam or a scammer.
  4. More than likely, no one is going to get the moneys KT owes him or her, but if anyone does, you're probably WAY down on the priority list -- even if you're a triple platinum affiliate or Level 12 muckety-muck or whatever. You're way down there after his lawyers, after the US government, and MAYBE after a select few who have enough inside dirt on him to put him away for even longer than he's afraid he'll be put away (according to more scuttlebuttish stuff from Lenny and from Kevin's brother Bob). This doesn't mean you should give up on your efforts to legally and ethically get any money owed to you, just that you should probably do so with "managed expectations," as a friend of mine recently put it. But think of it like this: The lessons you learned the hard way -- if you take them to heart and use them to help others avoid the same mistakes you made -- are priceless.
The above are only my opinions, based upon my customary outsider's perspective. If I'm wrong about any of it, please show me where and how. If I'm not wrong, consider adding your voice to a growing protest movement that is actually more than just a protest movement. This is about more than just Kevin True-dough and GIN. It's about liars and scammers everywhere, and the people whom they've hurt. This is your chance to help. And maybe, just maybe your efforts will have an echo effect that will continue to help others long after the GIN ship has sunk for good and KT has been beamed back up to the Mother Ship.

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HHh said...

Christ, can't they just pack Trudeau off to Afghanistan to play with the Taleban.

Anonymous said...

"Also... not killing him kind of discredits some of the conpiracy arguements. If they killed him now they risk turning all he has said into a full blown cross country riot. "

Well, maybe his mother would be upset.

(Has he got her back from the pawnbroker yet?)

Tom Banjo said...

I left a comment for Leonard Coldwell on his blog. He doesn't seem interested in discussing anything with me though, he has blocked me from every one of his pages which allow comments. I'll leave it here since he reads your blog.

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

May 21, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Will you be refunding all the money you personally squeezed out of GIN members? You have a pretty good downline plus you sold a lot of seats at the GIN Scamventions.

Despite your attempt to paint yourself as a victim you will certainly be named in any class action suit that is filed by GIN members. If you check your websites and facebook page a good case can be made for the fact that you PERSONALLY committed fraud with your self help nonsense and fake cures.

Just calling yourself a Dr. without medical degrees or even 1 peer reviewed paper to your name can convince any jury that you are defrauding people. The funny thing about a fraud case is that even if you lose you can’t discharge the debt in bankruptcy, so you will either have to pay or live without a bank account for the rest of your life.

Anonymous 2 said...

I agree, he should be stacking sandbags in the middle of Shitholistan.

Sheila O'Shea said...

I'm starting to wonder if this is a specific chapter in the Start Your Own Cult For Fun And Profit Playbook--"When in doubt, bring up aliens!"

Then again, when he's already been playing the Lone Voice versus the Evil Oppressive Guvmint game for as long as he has, it's not much of a leap from quack cures to the Illuminati to Area 51. They all kinda hang out in the same loopy area.

Tom Banjo said...

It seems Bernd/Lenny is not a fan of constructive criticism. Since I am blocked from posting comments on his page I will leave my last message for him here. I'm not sure if you know this but Lenny reads your blogs and loses sleep over them. He knows he is in a bit of a pickle. Now that one of the main GIN marketers is cooperating with the feds it is only a matter of time before it gets ugly.

May 21, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Will you be refunding all the money you personally squeezed out of GIN members? You have a pretty good downline plus you sold a lot of seats at the GIN Scamventions.

Despite your attempt to paint yourself as a victim you will certainly be named in any class action suit that is filed by GIN members. If you check your websites and facebook page a good case can be made for the fact that you PERSONALLY committed fraud with your self help nonsense and fake cures.

Just calling yourself a Dr. and dispensing medical advice without any medical degrees or even 1 peer reviewed paper to your name can convince any jury that you are defrauding people. The funny thing about a fraud case is that if you lose you can’t discharge the debt in bankruptcy, so you will either have to pay or live without a bank account for the rest of your life.

Your best bet at this point is to come clean about your scam and join your friend singing for the feds. Either that or you can produce ONE of the many theses or scientific papers you've written (ever). If you have a Phd then you have at least one thesis .. no? If you are selling scientific cures that you created there should be at least 1 peer reviewed paper that you could direct us to

Just a thought.

Cosmic Connie said...

HHH, that's a thought. Of course it would have to be by force; True-dough would never consent to go to Afghanistan voluntarily. No money ops there.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon Monday, May 28, 2012 7:08:00 PM, LOL. But I do feel sorry for KT's mom. That letter she wrote to the judge back in 1991 to try to keep her boy out of prison was heartbreaking.
Here is the link to first page (and you can follow the links on the upper right hand side to read subsequent pages):

Even if you've already read it, it's worth reading again. It drives the point home that sociopaths' actions hurt not only their intended marks but also those who love them the most.

In a conversation on Facebook, KT's brother Bob poignantly described accompanying their mom to visit KT in prison and having to deal with her hysterical tears. Apparently Mary Trudeau's life was a living hell for nearly two years, worrying about her little boy's welfare in the joint.

But sociopaths just don't care.

Cosmic Connie said...

Ha, ha, Sheila, I think you're right about the hucksters' playbook having a chapter on ETs. This is related not only to the Area 51-conspiracy nutcake stuff, but also to the "humanity is entering a bold new stage of evolution" New-Agey meme (see, for example, "Indigo Children").

In the end it's all part of the old ploy to make people feel Very Special in order to part them from their money.

Cosmic Connie said...

Tom Banjo, you wouldn't happen to be related to banjoDave, who wrote about how Kevin Trudeau almost wrecked motivational product giant Nightingale-Conant back in the day?

Here's that link:

I also heard some third- or fourth-hand scuttlebutt that KT nearly drove N/C into bankruptcy at one point by partying hardy with hookers and booze and other recreational substances on N/C's dime. I may have mentioned it on this blog before. I forget, and I’m too lazy to go searching right now.

I asked Peter Wink about the KT partying issue but he hasn't answered yet, so either he's very busy or he really doesn’t know anything. Perhaps if the rumors are true, it happened at the time he wasn't working at N/C (he had previously told me he worked for them back in the early 1990s. I'm not sure if that was before or after KT was in prison.)

But Peter did tell me in one of the interviews I did with him a couple of years ago that he helped save N/C from failure. Maybe he was saving them from the disaster caused by KT, but he didn’t specify.

But I digress.

Lenny Coldwell.... ah, Lenny. You don't mean to tell me that he actually reads my little blog? Oh, goodness gracious, I am flattered. Joe Vitale's pal Pat O'Bryan once wrote on HIS blog that no one reads this little hater blog and that all of us hater bloggers are just preaching to the choir. (Pat and Joe have both publicly declared themselves to be KT fans, as I mentioned in this blog post.) But then a little while later Pat deleted all of the stuff he'd written specifically about me. He stood by his opinion on hater bloggers, though.

But I digress... again!

You have made some very good points about Lenny. And it honestly worries me that some really good people -- the rank and file GIN members who are leaving the sinking ship in droves -- are apparently looking to Lenny for leadership in a class action lawsuit that Lenny is supposedly spearheading. They are looking upon him as a hero. I know they're hurting emotionally as well as financially as a result of being in GIN and believing KT's lies, but trading one cult leader for another is not the answer.

Due to Blogger’s insane character limitations for one comment, I will continue this below.

Cosmic Connie said...

As for GIN marketers cooperating with the Feds, maybe you are referring to Peter Wink there too. I don't know because I haven't talked to Peter about this. He is being very circumspect with me, and I guess you can hardly blame him. But I do know that on Facebook he shared my Salty Droid link I had sent him -- the link Salty provides for various agencies and Attorneys General so people can easily complain about fraud. And in a separate post he also provided a link to the Federal Trade Commission, implying that he "might have" already contacted them.

And then there's this, on Facebook:

In case you can't follow that link, here's the post verbatim. It's dated May 22, eight days ago as I write this.

Since I keep getting asked, I want to set the record straight, and here's my personal opinion of the GLOBAL INFORMATION NETWORK (take it for what it is worth after 2.5 years watching it grow)....
"The highlight of my tenure was being at the live events - as far from the office as I could get. Being with GIN Members/Affiliates was the best. The friendships, warmth and positive energy was off the charts. I also loved emceeing and speaking. To this day, I have a multitude of people all over the world I call friend. I also really enjoyed becoming good friends with Dr. C, Ron Ball, Mary Miller, Ed Foreman, Earlene Vining, and Peter Ragnar. They were like my extended family for almost three years. The rest of the speakers I knew very little about or were too new to get to know very well when I was there. Though I must say Juanita Ecker and Dr. Theresa Dale, while I was getting to know them, really would have ended up on this list. I adore them both! Just did not have much time together! Dr. Theresa Dale is actually one dynamic credible lady - embrace her! All these speakers are nothing short of first class educators and mentors!

As far as the Affiliate program, in all the years I was around it, I never understood it, never really wanted to understand it, and basically had nothing to do with it, so I cannot speak to it. One other thing I need to make clear was that I was not a paying GIN Member, so my perspective was different than those paying out their hard-earned money. I always said that if someone just paid their monthly dues and went to enough events, and learned, and applied them to some business or need, that would be worth the price of their membership. I don't think anyone would dispute that. I personally never understood the need to invest thousands of dollars in sales tools, CDs, DVDs or any of that. But remember...that was not ever my interest. For some of you, they may be helpful.

With my love of personal development and connections with like-minded people from over 20 years in this business, I could have become a Platinum Member in my sleep. It just was not my cup of tea. I also think it would have been a conflict of interest. I just loved the motivational and business information --- and soaked it up knowing I was going to be a full-time entrepreneur in 2012. That became my magnificent obsession. That's why the string of recent events actually worked out in my favor.

Yes, in my opinion, there are issues to be resolved privately, but if I were in your shoes, and I was a Member/Affiliate of GIN, I would go to the speaker events and soak up the information like a sponge while you can. I will say one thing though before I sign off for some dinner --- Dr. C [that would be Lenny Coldwell. ~CC] was the heart and soul of the organization and he cannot be replaced. He cared about everyone. And for that he will be missed. That's a pair of shoes that cannot be filled again. HUGS!"


CYA and all that stuff.

Cosmic Connie said...

So to me, it looks as if Peter and Lenny are covering their a$$es very well, and again, I'm not saying I blame them. They were part of a big con and from where I sit, it was a pretty obvious one. But then I have never been sucked into KT’s vortex and have never been on his payroll. The folks I am really worried about are the rest of the people who are looking up to them. I have a feeling they are on their own, and the sooner they realize it – the sooner they realize that they need to be suspicious of virtually anyone involved in the GIN speaker program (e.g., Peter Ragnar), or on the GIN recommended reading list (e.g., Abraham-Hicks), the better off they will be.

But that’s just my opinion.

Hey, I think I have material for my next blog post!

Cosmic Connie said...

I don't mean to hog the conversation here but I keep finding interesting things that I think are relevant to the matter at hand, and I don't want to just keep adding to the main blog post.

Yesterday (May 29) a newly disillusioned GIN guy named Nicholas shared this...


I've thought much over the last few days, weeks and past year as a Level 1 member of GIN!! So I finally would like to give to you what I think especially now that much of the storm has settled down in regards to GIN!!?? Thanks to you Dr. C!!! So here goes... I've had a ball on the cruise and at Dream Weekend. The live seminars given by Ron Ball, Dr. Morter and Mary Miller were first rate, but it looks like live events outside of the 4 promised a year have been discontinued. I met some great, no, AWESOME GIN people and I'm sure that I have friends for life from these experiences.

However, these events never ever inspired me to work the GIN Affiliate program except to only consider people who could truly afford to be a member i.e. had a real job making no less than 100K per year (not many there, LOL, and if they do make that kind of money they are just not interested in GIN) or a free GIN Affiliate.

As for the GIN MLM that is now the primary focus and life blood of GIN there is no way that I would ever recommend anyone to work that as a source of any significant income. It appears that the more you move up the GIN system the more you need to feed the GIN coffers. You make the money, then you get robbed of the money all in the same easy smooth stroke!! This is what I believe is meant by delayed gratification. When you're at the seminars they make it appear as if the "delay" in delayed gratification is no more than a walk across the street. However, when you truly realize how much time, money and effort is involved they tell you that it is more like a marathon than a sprint. They say that your lack of results is directly proportional to not working the system right, because the system is infallible and never needs to change. If it didn't work the 1st time$, try$$ and try$$$ and try again$$$$!!! Plug in and plunge head first into the system more which is books$, Audios$ and seminars$$$$!!!

Continued on next comment…

Cosmic Connie said...

[This is a continuation of Nicholas D’s comment about suspicious activity by GIN leadership. ~CC]

One other thing that disturbs me is that GIN is now withholding 30% of your GIN payout for "tax purposes" as if they are your actual employer!! GIN in no way is responsible for paying your taxes because you are considered an INDEPENDENT business person!!! You are not an employee of GIN. I think that this is just a stop-the-bleeding measure by GIN to hide the fact that they do not have the money to make all the necessary payouts promised to the fair GIN "GO GETTERS"!!! Also, if the GIN MLM Affiliate program folds, then good luck getting what is due you from that undeclared 30% withholding!!!! Do you realize that in the right hands just how much someone can make of that money that GIN is now keeping from you under the guise of tax withholdings??!!! I'll tell you that some people that I know simply move money around from one currency to another taking advantage of the differences in valuation and are making big money TAX FREE!!!

I am not a lawyer, but I think that the following statements directly from the IRS are very clear as to whether or not GIN is liable for withholding taxes from GIN members!! "However, a withholding agent that can reliably associate the payment with documentation (discussed later) from a U.S. person is not required to withhold." This to me states that if you are a US citizen, then you need not fear US tax withholdings and GIN is not required to withhold anything from you. If I'm wrong let me know. How about this quote "NRA withholding applies only to payments made to a payee that is a foreign person. It does not apply to payments made to U.S. persons."

However, this document may sound like GIN is still liable to withhold from persons foreign to the US, but GIN is a foreign company BASED OUT OF NEVIS making payouts to foreign people which US Tax withholding laws shouldn't apply if those people aren't making money in the US!! i.e. no one in their down line is a US citizen!! Once again correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like GIN is covered and never has to institute US withholding practices. Also, my 1st premise is that everyone in GIN is NOT an EMPLOYEE of GIN and GIN pays no wage because each person working the GIN Affiliate Program are independent business owners/operators.

So I would ask that if GIN is under no obligation to actually withhold 30% of your commissions through the GIN Affiliate Program, then why have they done this? There are only 2 possible answers that I can think of, 1. They are inept at reading US Tax Laws or 2. They are doing something else other than stated with the money.


Gee... I think I'll pick Number 2. Just a wild guess. I'm no lawyer either, but the above does seem to shed even more light on why KT "organized" GIN in Nevis/St. Kitts. ~CC

HHH said...

"True-dough would never consent to go to Afghanistan voluntarily. No money ops there."

But if he's a big Illuminist, then he's one of the people responsible for the NWO operation there isn't he?

Which reminds me, it's that time of year again....

HHH said...

He says (from your other blog piece)

~~~For more than 30 years, I’ve been lucky enough to be a member of one such secret society. The ultra-secretive “Brotherhood” society. It’s [sic] members include some of the most successful people on the planet. They’re all mega-millionaires…billionaires…high-level government officials…heads of entire countries…33rd degree Freemasons (the highest ranking of all masons)…captains of industry (Andrew Carnegie and Aristotle Onassis were members of The Brotherhood)…and believe it or not, even members of Royal families.~~~

Well, that's it isn't it? He's a BilderBurglar.

Anonymous said...

Just looked at your graphics. Tee hee.

Anonymous said...

Is the salty droid site down?

Cosmic Connie said...

Sorry for ignoring the comments here... I got sidetracked again.
HHH May 30 and 31, I think you nailed it: True-dough is a BilderBurglar extraordinaire.
Anon May 31, thanks for noticing the graphics.
Anon June 30: The Salty Droid site goes down occasionally for servicing or because of too much traffic, but it never stays down, thank goodness.

Anonymous said...

I never heard KT speak about having alien DNA, but I do find your story interesting. Having been abducted after a military deployment in the mid '90s, and having undergone a medical procedure conducted by ETs it would not surprise me at all if KT had alien DNA. :-) I do not doubt that the brotherhood exists; to me it does not seem far fetched, especially since I have worked on classified World Bank and IMF sponsored U.S. Military missions overseas. During those missions I got the impression those guys were not in charge either.