When host Lauer started the ball rolling by challenging Ray about the "scientific" nature of The Secret and the Law of Attraction, Ray answered firmly that it absolutely is based on science. Right off the bat he mentioned quantum physics, as all New-Wage marketers are apparently now required by law to do. "Everything that exists in the universe is energy, and energy vibrates," he noted, citing the observer effect as proof that we experience what we expect to experience. Since he said that in the same breath as his mention of quantum physics, I have to believe that he was talking about the observer effect as it applies to quantum mechanics, and not observer bias in the social sciences or something like that.*
Ray also cited research done by the HeartMath Institute in California, which he described as "the foremost leading authority on heart and vibrations and heart-based emotions." He said the Institute’s research has found that heart-based feelings not only impact our DNA but send vibrations out into the Universe, and those vibrations do indeed affect the things around us.
Dr. Saltz, either out of politeness or awareness of time constraints, did not point out that emotions originate in the brain, not the heart. Granted, they can have a significant impact on the heart, but the heart is not the seat of emotions. Nor did the good doctor address the feelings/DNA connection Ray mentioned. (By the way, I’ve noticed that more and more New-Wagers like to talk about how we can alter our DNA, either by changing our thoughts, or taking the right supplements, or a combination thereof.)
Regarding the science issue, Dr. Saltz really didn’t have time to say much except to note that there is no science to back up the notion that vibrations from thoughts can influence the world around us. She added that using scientific terms such as "vibrations" and "energy" doesn’t render something scientific. But Ray continued to insist that The Secret is based in science.
When Lauer brought up the concern, voiced by many, that one message in The Secret seems to be that people bring on their own illness, poverty, and other misfortunes, Ray answered, "Everything is your responsibility, nothing is your fault. There is no ‘blame’ here."
Some may say that’s just a matter of semantics, though I think the distinction is real. Yet in everyday life, people struggling with the concept of "total responsibility" are very often unable to make that distinction. They end up blaming themselves or others when things go wrong – which is pretty much what most of them were doing anyway without The Secret. And as many critics have noted, the concept of total responsibility also makes it even easier than it already was to turn away from people in real trouble; after all, one can rationalize that they "attracted" that trouble.
As for the magical-thinking charge, Ray did say repeatedly that The Secret – and his own teachings – are about taking action as well as wishing and hoping. That may be. But the promotional hype around The Secret – and again, I have to come back to that now-famous quotation about the Universe as a mail order catalog – has focused much more on thinking and feeling than on taking action. And as for Ray’s teachings,I can't help but notice that one of the actions recommended is the purchasing of tons of products and services from him and a few of his select buddies.
Lauer, who let Ray have the last word, wrapped up the segment with a remark that no matter what one believes about The Secret, we can all agree it’s taken off like wildfire.
After the Today Show segment, Dr. Saltz wrote some of her thoughts about The Secret and other self-help materials on her blog. She elaborated on what she’d said on the show – that she believes positive thinking, optimism, and gratitude can be very helpful. But she reiterated that there is no real "science" behind The Secret and the Law of Attraction, and she is concerned about potential harm.
There is no scientific data to support the idea that one’s mind can send out a vibration which will bring an external object to you or affect another person or affect a future event all by itself. This is rather the author’s idea, belief and wish. Actually, it may be many people’s wish. But by stating it as scientific fact and as a secret that will absolutely bring you success if you do it correctly, it is not only a misrepresentation — it could be harmful.
And boy, did the Secretrons come out in droves to attack her. Although on both the TV show and her blog she was far kinder and gentler than I and most critics have been, the Secret fans were angry, condescending and sanctimonious.
One reader wrote, "Listen lady, you have a lot of learning to do... And also, you were very rude and came across close-minded. Of ciourse (sic) its not a good idea if you have cancer to think about NOT having cancer. - because you are sending the message out there still focusing on CANCER. If you are ill, think HEALTH. BELIEVE HEALTH. And then act it. Get with it, for your sake."
Most of the comments accused her of being closed-minded, negative, stuck in her own narrow paradigm, unwilling to explore cutting-edge research, and the like – pretty much the same things I’ve been accused of. Some chided her for using her position of prominence to spread negativity instead of giving people hope – something I've not been accused of, since I have no prominence to speak of. At least one person accused her of just wanting "face time" on TV and not caring about improving the lot of humanity.
Apropos of the latter charge, it is entirely possible that Dr. Saltz is not the humble altruist and potential savior of the human race that, say, Rhonda Byrne, Joe Vitale, John DeMartini (talk about humility – do follow that link), and other stars of The Secret are. But I think she does have a responsibility, to her audience as well as to the patients in her private practice, to take a stand about something she believes is unscientific and even potentially harmful. That’s what she was doing, and I think she was being pretty respectful, all things considered. I also think the news media have a responsibility to present both pro- and anti-Secret points of view, and they are finally living up to that responsibility.
One writer on Dr. Saltz’s blog accused her and Lauer of "ganging up" on poor James Ray. It seemed to me that Lauer was simply asking questions that most people would ask about the more extreme claims in The Secret. He was, in other words, posing the challenges that Larry King and Oprah were apparently too starry-eyed to even consider.
One of Ray’s final shots at Saltz on the Today segment was to quote a pioneer in her field, William James. Maybe he thought that this would give him some leverage with his scientifically-minded rival. But Dr. Saltz wasn’t convinced.
I don’t recall the quotation; you can play the clip and find out for yourself. I will, however, share my own favorite William James quotation: "We believe as much as we can. We would believe everything if we could." And I really think that the phenomenal success of The Secret, and, for that matter, What The Bleep?, is a pretty clear indication that James was right.
PS - I should note that due to the quantity and vehemence of the responses to her blog post, Dr. Saltz felt compelled to do a follow-up the next day titled, "Clarification On The Secret." I actually thought her message came through loud and clear the first time, but apparently it didn't for everyone. In an effort to deflect the wrath of the Secretrons, she acknowledged again that The Secret has some valuable ideas and many people are obviously getting something from it. But she did repeat her question about the Law of Attraction: "Where is the science?"
The responses were much more civil to this post than to her previous one. Naturally, there were those who pointed her to sites that purported to show her the science, but these sites were adverts for New-Wage marketing devices. And one person repeatedly tried to persuade her that she could really open her mind if she'd do the Landmark Forum, which is just the latest incarnation of est (the Landmark hustledorks I've encountered try to keep this under their hats, though).
* On the other hand, he could have been referring to a Star Trek episode. But for those who are interested, here’s another viewpoint on quantum mysticism.
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Hi Connie,
I can't take this anymore!!!
How do you keep yourself from whirling right out into the cosmos?
I decided to start speaking from my own experiences as an LOA "insider." I hope some people can be saved from going down the slippery slope.
http://you-unplugged.com/blog/2007/03/02/law-of-attraction-insiders-spilling-the-beans/
It's probably a good thing that a lot of people aren't really hearing what The Secret is saying. If their take-home message is take personal responsibility for your life, set goals, take positive action, believe that you can achieve, then that's great. It's all the other stuff that's not so great and can be very harmful.
Lana
Well, Lana, I *am* whirling around out in the cosmos; that's why my Musings are so Whirled. :-)
Good for you for blogging about this stuff. Be prepared for a fresh onslaught of abuse, though. Remember, you're messing with people's religion. And some folks don't take too kindly to that.
I read your blog post, by the way, and I urge everyone else to read it too. Back in the day when I was involved in New-Wage stuff, I encountered so many of the same things you did. That's why I became disillusioned and, some would say, cynical. (And I too have some inside info about some of the people involved in LOA. I'm holding out for the Natinal Enquirer, though. :-))
I've been thinking about all this stuff. Someone looking at the "bigger picture" would probably say that this LOA/Secret phenomenon is just like any other cult, or, in less extreme cases, like any other self-help or spiritual path that people get all caught up in. We are all, it seems, either coming or going. Those who are on their way "in" -- who are still in the "oh-wow" stage of New-Wage/mystical discovery -- are going to reject our experiences. Many will dismiss us as negative, poor sports, etc. Our words will resonate more with those who are on their way "out" -- who are experiencing early or late stages of disillusionment. Of course, there are those who never got into the stuff in the first place, and some of them will like what we have to say, while some will think we're not being critical enough, or that we're being critical for the "wrong" reasons.
Ya can't please everyone!
At any rate, we're really all on the same path, but it's definitely a two-way street. Some would say it's a circular track. And I'd have to agree. I've been going round and round on this track for a while, and I keep passing the same people. What a crazy Whirled, huh?
Anyway, Lana, thanks for writing -- both here and on your blog.
"I'm holding out for the Natinal Enquirer, though."
Oops, I meant "National Enquirer."
Apparently my real-time spell checker was on a break when I wrote that.
The funny thing is, I am kinda woo woo (although woo hoo! is probably a better term). I'm not a New Ager, but I can sound like one sometimes. I love consciousness and "energy" stuff. I'm a member of the Institute of HeartMath; I served on the board of directors for an energy psychology assocation.
BUT -- show me the science, man!
So, I'm also a member of the Skeptics Society, and I claimed myself as a Bright, of all things :-)
Yes, I am prone to spinning out as I go from one end of the spectrum to the other (several times a day). I wouldn't want it any other way!
Yeah, maybe for enough money I'll name names and take the chance of getting sued!
Well, I am an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church. And I listen to some New Age music too. And some of my best friends are Woo-Woos and Woo-Hoos. Like I said, we're all on the same path. Some of us just like to get into a good scuffle now and then. :-)
As for naming names, if you're afraid of getting sued, you could always do a fictional account with thinly disguised characters.
OTOH, if you're writing the truth, then legally it is not libel. At least that is my understanding; this is of course not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer, though my favorite TV show is "Boston Legal."
"Well, I am an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church."
Connie, funny thing, I went to an ordainment ceremony last year for some people I know. Otherwise I would have had no idea what you were talking about.
Like Lana, I'm still into consciousness stuff, but I don't claim any of it is science, and don't buy into everything uncritically. If everything in life could be verified by double blind experiments, it would be pretty boring. I'm proud to be a little bit woo woo, but I'm not going to keep quiet when I see patently absurd claims being made about laws of the universe.
I read Dr. Saltz blog posts and some of the responses and noted that some people really seem to get offended when their belief system is challenged with very legitimate questions. Also, several people called her "lady", and "missy", which is really condescending. Maybe they feel doubly threatened- by critical thinking and by a professional woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind? One person mentioned that her sister in law, who is head of some psychaiatric clinic, loved the Secret. I think, when dealing with illness, anything that helps people keep a positive frame of mind is good, as long as it doesn't make false promises. There may be a high success rate with positive thinking, but, as some bloggers commented, bad things still happen and that is also a part of life. It seems that some of these new metaphysical trends are aimed at making people more than human. For example, in an interview with some of the people in the Secret that I read a month ago, they all said they never have bad days anymore, as if never having bad days is indicative of a high spiritual state. Well, personally, it would make me nervous to be around people who claim to never have bad days. It seems to me that they want life to be something it is not, that is, perfect and predictable.
Good points all, Moi. And I too noticed the condescension directed at Dr. Saltz; to me that stuck out even more than what her critics were actually saying. It could be argued that they are within their rights to be condescending to people like me, since I've been so sarcastic and condescending about some of this stuff. But I thought Dr. Saltz was conducting herself professionally and politely, and they still came at her with their teeth bared.
I too have read interviews where Rhonda and others said they don't have bad days any more. I'm sure they do have bad days; they just don't call them that any more. Remember, "it's all good!" :-)
...and regarding "It's all good!"... I can't help but think of the famous scene in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," where the knight who has lost his limbs in a fight, and has blood spurting out of every possible orifice, continues to insist, "It's only a flesh wound!"
LOL! And so true about the human mind. It's amazing how we can go happily along in denial and with serious cognitive dissonance.
You do have to wonder about people who claim they don't have bad days anymore. Maybe they are happy. But maybe they're also comfortably numb -- which is fine for them but not for others. Some people get in a perpetual state of being "frightfully overjoyed" -- again, perhaps fine for them but for others. Unless they're all in the same state... Reminds me of your post about Marci in Maui.
Thanks, Lana. From reading her blog entries, I actually think Marcy does live a joyful life in many ways. But she comes across as way too bubbly in her writings. "Frightfully overjoyed" is a great description. It's as if she is trying desperately to convince herself as much as anyone else that she is so happy. ("It's a DONE DEAL and it sticks NO MATTER WHAT!")
But I have to say that I kind of feel hurt on Marcy's behalf at how badly her (former) guru Tilak has been behaving. He's been pulling that kind of crap for years but Marcy apparently didn't know it or chose to ignore it. I did notice, however, that she pulled her Tilak-worshipping posts and pictures off of her blog after that "scandal" story came out in San Diego.
"But maybe they're also comfortably numb -- which is fine for them but not for others. "
Speaking of images that come to mind- I imagine Rhonda Byrne, lots of new bikes and mansions materializing out of the universe, and the Pink Floyd "Animals" album with the big pig floating in the air.
Yeah, I'm seeing it now... :-)
I found something in a "spiritual" book i bought last year by a therapist who says some pertinent things about the idea of manifesting reality. The author is Charlotte Kasl, and the book is "If the Buddha dated". After making some honest efforts to change some of her core beliefs about herself regarding her singlehood, she was led to "a false belief that is prevalent in New age culture, the idea that if you conjure up an image of the person you want to meet, set an intention, and send it out to the universe, you will attract the person you are looking for. She says lots of people have tried it with success but, psychologically speaking`, it is "a form of magical thinking because it suggests we have some forceful magnetic power over others. as if our thoughts reach out to someone and pull them toward us". If it were that easy, every one would have partners and dating services would be out of business. She says the idea that we have power over others stems from spiritualizing a stage of early childhood development...."when we were infants, we cried, and our mother came. Our baby mind came to the conclusion that it was our cry that brought our mothers, which made us all powerful, (If she didn't come, we concluded it was our fault). So, instead of saying "It took me 5 years to manifest a lover", we should more accurately say" I was single for 5 years and finally met someone". "We don't need to dramatize the situation and make it supernatural. If people stay active and open, by the law of averages, many will eventually find a partner"
I think what she says applies to LOA in general. I wanted to post this here because it was written by a therapist and Buddhist practitioner who is immersed in spirituality, but doesn't buy into magical thinking scenarios.
And it's an excellent point, Moi. Thank you.
The problem is that so many people seem to need the magic and mysticism. And the New-Wage marketers are only too happy to play into it.
Cool! Y'all got the Pink Floyd reference.
Did you see the WebMD article about The Secret?
"According to Fiore, The Secret makes people afraid of their genuine emotions of depression/sadness and anger/upset. “This is just wrong and counter to the research on the benefits of expressing difficult “negative” emotions and the negative effects of stoically acting as if you’re being positive.”
See http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/the-secret-is-it-the-real-deal?page=1
Thanks, Lana. And that's another argument in favor of the notion that some of the ideas in "The Secret" can be harmful or counter-productive (we're having that discussion right now on the "Save the children" post). As I said on that other discussion, I don't think "The Secret" is so dangerous it should be banned or anything, but I do think some people could really misuse it.
I was thinking last night about how the Secret would have been received if it came out in the 1940's. Would everyone be thinking that those darned Christ killers (I am being facetious) brought the holocaust on themselves? Could its message be used that way now? After all, they do say that we attract 100% of what come s to us.
Matter of fact, Moi, I've seen several discussions about the Holocaust and the Law of Attraction, but LOA defenders kind of dance around the issue, the same way they dance around the genocide in Rwanda and other places in more recent times. Generally they seem to answer with some convoluted (to me, anyway) explanation about "group vibrations" and how groups of people can "attract" both good and bad experiences. They generally let it go at that and just go back to talking about how "The Secret" has helped so many folks, and those who criticize "The Secret" are too filled with negativity.
In short, none of the LOA folks seem to really want to address the question you raised, because they want to focus on positive things (translation: making their own lives better).
I can't say I necessarily blame them for wanting to focus on things they *can* fix rather than on the "big picture" and all of those unpleasant historical and current events. Yet they open themselves up to these "big-picture" discussions when they insist that LOA is a "Law" in the sense that the law of gravity is. Once people make such a bold declaration, they'd better be prepared to answer questions such as the one you raised, Moi.
"Yet they open themselves up to these "big-picture" discussions when they insist that LOA is a "Law" in the sense that the law of gravity is. Once people make such a bold declaration, they'd better be prepared to answer questions such as the one you raised, Moi."
Right. And this claim about the LOA being a "law" is precisely where everything starts breaking down. Because it's apparently not a universal law, people are free to make up the rules by which this law works. Notice how many explanations of how it works are out there.
Will the real Law of Attraction please stand up?! Is it behind door number 1, door number 2, or door number 3? Oh wait. Maybe there isn't a door -- all the doors are a collective illusion. :-)
The only way most people are able to believe the LOA is by blocking out or glossing over the unsavory aspects. The brain is wired to do that. The brain is wired to live in a strange balance between reality and illusion. It's when we step too far into illusion that the trouble begins.
Lana
"The only way most people are able to believe the LOA is by blocking out or glossing over the unsavory aspects."
You said it, Lana. Actually, IMO, that's the way most people are able to embrace any particular faith or spiritual path. There are, for example, many wonderful, goodhearted people who believe that acceptance of Jesus Christ as one's personal savior is the only way to avoid eternal damnation after death. And most of these goodhearted Christians just don't like to think about the fact that if their belief is literally true, it means that untold numbers of equally wonderful, goodhearted Jews, Hindus, Muslims or nonbelievers will be rotting in Hell while the Christians are partying in Paradise.
Of course, the same goes with any other religion path.
Not that I want to derail this into a pro- or anti-religious argument, since I'm not out to prove or disprove the tenets of faith. However, since LOA seems to have almost become a religion for some, I thought the example was relevant.
And, Lana, I agree wholeheartedly with your statements about reality and illusion. Of course, there will be those who say "you create your own reality," so one person's "illusion" is another's "reality."
I agree that the LOA philosophy is like any other philosophy or religion. Christianity is a good comparison. You have Christians of all stripes, ranging from nominal to fanatics. The World Christian Encyclopedia states there were 33,820 Christian denominations worldwide as of year 2000, each with some variation. The variation can be huge -- the teaching of predestination (to be saved or damned to burn forever in hell) versus EVERYONE will be saved by a compassionate God.
I'm seeing similar extremes with the LOA philosophy. To some, LOA simply means positive thinking and taking action to get what you want in life. (And I say Amen to that!) To others, LOA means that you create every single bit of your reality, both the good and the evil (hence, the belief in such things as Holocaust victims and starving and dying children in Africa creating their own demise).
As several people are keen to point out: "Either you believe or you don't!" Faith. Always an interesting subject :-)
"Faith. Always an interesting subject."
Yep, it sure keeps us blogging, anyway! :-)
For over 30 years I experienced several life threatening chronic illnesses. Through the Grace of God I was lead to several people and organizations that aided me in understanding, positively dealing with and transforming these illnesses. For the past few years I have devoted my life to sharing what I have learned with others. The most impactful organizations I was lead to is The Institute of HeartMath - www.emotionalmastery.com.
The American Institute of Stress and The Centers for Disease Control have both reported that up to 90% of all illnesses are due to stress. I was lead to The Institute of HeartMath in 1997 and discovered that all of my illnesses were due to stress I had been experiencing in my life. Through learning and practicing HeartMath’s tools and technologies, I am able to prevent, manage and reverse the effects of stress, in-the-moment, achieve better health, more energy, improved mental and emotional clarity, and improved performance and relationships. HeartMath’s tools and technologies are scientifically substantiated; they literally saved my life.
Thank you for your comments, Heart Man. I see from your link that you're also a Landmark Forum man. I'm glad these tools are working for you, and I'm not about to argue that they aren't. And I agree that medical science has found that stress can have devastating effects on our health, and can even cause or exacerbate disease.
But I do take issue with James Ray citing what he says is HeartMath Institute research: on the Today Show segment I wrote about, he seemed to be saying that HeartMath research has proven that our hearts are the seat of emotions that send out vibrations, and those vibrations in turn affect the Univese. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't sound scientific to me.
Anyway, I wish you continued health and happiness, and I thank you for writing.
Some of you may have noticed that the messages from "Robert" and "Hogg" were identical. Don't worry, that wasn't an oversight on my part. I deliberately published both messages.
I did so to help illustrate a point I've been making (and one that Blair Warren has been making on his "Crooked Wisdom" blog). Somehow I have a feeling that this identical message will appear on many other "anti-Secret" web sites.
And do be sure to follow the link that "Robert" and "Hogg" have kindly provided.
Free book aside, it's clear that the site is part of something bigger, and it all has to do with some Internet-marketing hustle. If you're into that kind of thing, go for it!
This is no reflection on the merits, or lack thereof, of that free book. But the author does have an ulterior motive for offering the book. (Duh.) He may not be trying to take advantage of gullible magic-thinking sorts, but he is out to make a buck from people who get his free book.
I've known -- and said -- all along that the "Secret" stars are hard workers. But the thing they work the hardest at is self-promotion. And they do it in such a compelling (dare I say 'hypnotic'?) way that throngs of hopeful people are willing to give them tons of money.
I'm reasonably certain that not everyone who buys or loves 'The Secret' is looking for a magic pill. But you gotta admit that the marketing of 'The Secret'played on the magic aspect pretty heavily. (Can you say, "magic Genie"?)
To the faithful readers here, I apologize for publishing spam. But in this case I felt it was relevant.
I'm glad it's working for you, Lee. But I guess the promoters of The Secret were wrong when they said the DVD contains everything you need to put LOA into action in your life.
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