Tuesday, September 19, 2006

"I come from the twelfth dimension..."

Life surely is not easy for the parents of a severely disabled child. Apart from the numerous emotional, psychological and medical problems that so often accompany physical and mental disabilities, finding the proper care and support for these children is an ongoing challenge for most families. Most parents follow the traditional route of paying for what they can afford, and obtaining government and/or private assistance for what they can’t.

And then there is the type of parent who takes a more creative route: convincing folks that her handicapped child is an "Omni-Dimensional Being" who has come to Earth to bring a message of peace, love and hope to the human race. Such, apparently, is the case with a profoundly handicapped young woman known as "Grandma Chandra," described by her promoters – most notably, her mother Cat – as "a young being from the 12th dimension in a severely challenged physical body." Chandra’s "planetary rescue mission," we are told, is "to awaken as many souls as possible to who they truly are to activate their planetary missions so we may all ascend."

I just received an email inviting me to an "Ascension session" that Grandma Chandra will be conducting at The Flying Lotus Movement Center in Mount Shasta, California, this coming October 7. It is, I am told, an extraordinary opportunity to interact with Grandma Chandra and perhaps discover the "next step" on my Soul’s Mission.

Although she is only in her twenties, Chandra was dubbed "Grandma" by a Native American wise guy – er, wise man – because of her own great wisdom. That’s the story, anyway. Grandma Chandra is unable to speak, at least not in the conventional way. But no matter; she is able to "access information from other dimensions, this reality and the cosmos. She communicates telepathically and/or through a translator [Mom Cat, of course] with humans, angels, extra terrestrials and other sentient beings...as well as visits people in their dream states to work with them before they have met in the physical realm."

And even though she appears to be a person of limited awareness, we are told that Chandra is fully aware of her multidimensional nature and is able to "see" the multidimensional qualities in humans and other sentient beings. Naturally, she talks to dolphins and whales, and they to her (did you even have to ask?).
How does she do this? It’s simple, really. Chandra "operates on an extremely rare and high vibrational frequency and conducts the majority of her work non-verbally, choosing to telepath communications through members of the audience who can bring her, messages into the third dimension for the benefit of everyone."

I bet you didn’t know "telepath" was a verb, did you?

Besides her personal appearances, Grandma has a plethora of products to sell to folks who are hoping to heal, ascend, transcend, or do all of those other things that enlightened sorts long to do. These items aren’t mere "merchandise." They are "tools," and their purpose is "to enhance an individual’s movement to the next level of consciousness by awakening their codes that already exist within them but are lying dormant." For starters, there’s Grandma’s CD The Awakening Codes of Grandmother Chandra. Chandra has apparently discovered a master code in the numbers 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88 and 99. "By listening to this CD after you discover your number or numbers with intention to activate these codes, the 7 seals of the body (chakras) will open and connect with the planetary chakras taking you to the next level of Peace and Ascension." Grandma also has a CD called Whalespeak, in which she "tells the whales’ messages to humanity and how we can help. The messages are linked to the Biblical Codes of the Arc (sic) of the Covenant."

Then there’s Grandma’s DVD on crop circles. According to Grandma, the crop circles are messages from Extraterrestrial Star Beings to Star Beings here on Earth. "These messages," Grandma’s web site explains, "are here to assist us in completing our next level of conscious awareness to help ourselves and the planet. Chandra chose 33 crop circles and gave mathematical formulas in calculus and trigonometry that she says create geometry the basis of all crop circles. The ET’s are speaking to us in math, a universal language."

You might wonder how a person who cannot speak could possibly do an audio CD or a DVD. The answer, if you’ve hung around in the new age at all, should be obvious: Chandra communicates telepathically to her mother Cat, who then records the CDs. According to one purveyor of Chandra’s CDs, Maureen J. Saint Germain (and isn’t it amazing how many people these days have the surname, "Saint Germain"?), "Grandma Chandra's information coming through her Mother Cat Parenti is exquisite. Cat has an incredible and beautiful voice, speaks several languages and calls out the names of the very powerful beings with her exquisite voice." You can hear sound samples on Maureen St. Germain’s web site.

What I find even more intriguing than the CDs are Grandma’s essential oils. There is, for example, the "Self Heal One" essence, which is part of her "Soul Healing Oil" series. Self Heal One helps a person "overcome fear, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, weeping, depression, self-doubt, mental imbalance, selfishness, pedophilia and bestiality" (just in case the dolphins get a little too friendly, I suppose). This oil also "opens base or root chakra, unites masculine and feminine." And, like all of Grandma’s oils, it’s only $33.00 by the dram, or $99.00 by the ounce. What a deal.

Another tool not sold but highly recommended by Grandma Chandra is "spinning 99 times per day." This has to be done in a certain way to be effective, and, bless her heart, Grandma actually offers us free advice on how to do it. It’s really quite simple, but there are a few rules. First of all, you have to spin in the right direction. If you are above the equator, you gotta spin clockwise, and if you’re below the equator, spin counterclockwise. (We’re not told what those who are on the equator should do; my guess is that they would be best advised to just stand still and let the world spin around them.)
And then there's a matter of position. For a clockwise spin (above the equator), bring your right arm straight out in front of you with your thumb pointing to the sky. You folks below the equator should use your left arm, thumb up. If you’re on the equator, I suppose you can just keep your arms straight down at your sides, and do a Riverdance or something while the rest of us spin.

Grandma advises, "Start slowly and you will eventually pick up speed. I was recommending that people start with 33 revolutions and eventually work up to 66 and then 99 times per day. However, time has sped up and we are now accelerating on all levels so I say we must do 99 revolutions per day."

The final and most important step "to stop spinning without injuring self or others," is that, after you finish your 99th spin, "press the palms of your hands together (prayer position) and squeeze them together as hard as you can while keeping your feet shoulder width apart and deep breathing. DO NOT break this position until the room or the outside environment has COMPLETELY stopped revolving. The pressure on your palms sends messages up your arms and shoulders into your neck and head to the nerves there telling the nerves to stop spinning."
Perhaps the most fascinating tool of all is Grandma Chandra’s Attunement Chamber, described as an "omni-dimensional pyramid like structure complete with specially placed crystals." Your first thought, when looking at the picture of the Chamber on Grandma’s web site, might be, "Bad Photoshopping." But you would be quite wrong for, as Grandma explains, "This ‘blurry’ picture is part of the energy of the Chamber, the top or capstone spins clockwise and the bottom counterclockwise."

Grandma created this Chamber while in Europe, though we are not told exactly how, and she explains that it can be used to manifest whatever is desired, such as health, abundance etc. It is also an excellent tool for those who have been "willingly or unwillingly abducted by ET’s for experiments and teachings and are struggling to regain their WHOLESELVES." Grandma will have the Chamber with her at all of her presentations, including the upcoming gig at Mt. Shasta, and you can buy a series of thirteen in-person chamber sessions with her for $333.00. (Or perhaps more or fewer sessions. "The amount of sessions per person is decided by Grandma on a case by case basis.") Alternatively, you can have your own personal Chamber, which is available as a package deal along with "color therapy, an essential oil combination called the 13:13…[and the] CD "WHALESPEAK." The cost? A mere $1,300.00 US; Visa and MasterCard are accepted. (However, the Chamber won’t be shipped to you until 14 business days after receipt of payment, so I hope you’re not in any big hurry.)

Legend has it that Grandma Chandra’s extraordinary qualities were apparent from the time she was an infant. At the age of three months she was doing "mudras" with her fingers. Mudras are a series of symbolic body postures and hand movements used in East Indian classical dancing, or as Chandra’s web site would have it, they are "sacred signs for Universal Intelligence and OM." (One web site on pervasive developmental disorders mentions that "Rocking, hand and arm flapping, unusual hand and finger movements…are common" in autistic children.)

According to the bio on her web site, at the age of nine and a half, Chandra started doing spontaneous past life readings with everyone she came into contact with. "Not bound by the body, Chandra has unbroken past life recall," we're informed. I am a little puzzled as to how she communicated these past-life readings when she was nine and a half, since according to other accounts she didn't "speak" until she was twelve. The web site of the aforementioned Maureen St. Germain says, "At age 12 her therapists had a major breakthrough in developing a communications board for her to use and begin two way conversations.* Up until that time she had never spoken. She communicated with her new instrument with everyone but her mother, Cat, whom she refused to talk to. When Cat finally figured out what was going on, she had to agree to be Grandma's spokesperson. Some time after that Cat learned the messages in her head that she thought were coming from her higher self, were actually coming in from Chandra. Mother and daughter now use a shorthand to communicate very quickly. They give readings and lectures…"

Well, I suppose little details such as when and how she began communicating her extraordinary messages don’t matter. What matters is that Chandra is so "gifted." Among her many other talents, she "reads through her fingertips by spinning papers, closed books, magazines etc. She can then tell you a page in a book and how it pertains to you or someone else in the room. She does this with various spiritual/sacred books and papers when she does readings for people."

Chandra and Cat’s big breakthrough came when Chandra was nineteen, and was "discovered" by James Twyman, writer, film producer, musician and self-described "International Peacemaker" who is a big promoter of the "Indigo children" theory. Recognizing a good gimmick when he saw one, he invited Grandma Chandra to be a presenter at his New-Age Carnival Freak Show Psychic Indigo Children Conference in Hawaii. Following this conference, "Chandra began coding people as to their planetary mission and how to achieve it." Since then she and Mom have been to Sedona, Taos, Europe and a number of other spots to spread the word.

At the age of twenty, Chandra communicated that she is a twelfth-dimensional being "who has come here to guide and teach those whose codes she activates with her readings and CD The Awakening Codes of Grandmother Chandra." And her list of accomplishments keeps growing. Last year, for instance, she went to Los Angeles for a presentation at the Earth and Sky Lodge, described as a West Los Angeles Community Center for the performing and healing arts. According to a person named JB in LA, "While there she telepathed with some highly placed musicians and told them that it is time for her to create a DVD on the ‘sounds of the planets’. One of the musicians taped her drumming and said that, ‘She is drumming the sounds of the spheres according to the Pythagorean theorem.’"

In May of 2003, Chandra said that she is a "Star Gate Opener," and she began opening star gates during her presentations around the US. (In case you don’t know, star gates are "non-physical portals, gates, doorways, openings around the planet that allow only the highest vibratory Ascended Masters, Angels and Guides including Extra Terrestrials to come through to assist us and the planet to the next conscious level of Peace and Ascension.")

Alas, it seems that her numerous personal appearances and the merchandising of her "tools" haven’t netted quite enough to cover Grandma Chandra’s ongoing needs. Donations of all sizes are eagerly welcomed and openly solicited on her web site, and this notice appears on every page of the site: "As you know, Medicaid/ACCHSS does not pay for dental work. We are in gratitude that Grandma has no cavities etc. However, she needs to be completely anesthetized for her yearly teeth cleaning. We greatly appreciate any donations towards defraying this annual $1800 expense."

But I have no doubt that as time goes by, more miracles will unfold, and Grandma Chandra will continue to reveal, through Mama Cat, more new gifts and messages from yet more dimensions. The third dimension, after all, is a rich sea of opportunity. You just have to be a little creative sometimes.

* Utilizing the controversial Facilitated Communication method.

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24 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am here to testify that Grandma Chandra's gifts are real. After I first made contact with her, she came to me in a dream. I was privately pondering a question that no one else knew about. I was wondering about "creating reality" and whether we can cancel something we create if we realize we made a mistake. I clearly saw Grandma in my dream. I was with a friend, having lunch with Chandra and her family. A motorboat was racing, out of control, down a river next to us. We all knew the boat was about to crash. Grandma excused herself to walk over to the river. She was annoyed, indicating that she needed to fix something. She looked at the boat and it fell away. We all knew the boat had not crashed. To me, the dream's message was very clear. We can stop of "cancel" things we create if we realize we have made a mistake in our wishing. There is no way that Grandma could know what I was thinking about or come to me in a dream if she were not telepathic. She is a beautiful, loving soul who has helped many people to find their path. She gave me a 3-question reading about my soul's path and was absolutely on the money. Cat is a wonderful person, too. Please do not mock what you do not understand. Everyone has a choice whether or not to believe in those things we cannot see. Can you see love? Can you see fear? Can you see joy? No, you cannot. Yet, most of us believe those things exist. We believe in many things we cannot see, hear or touch. And the more we know, the more we realize we do not know.

I wish you peace in your life and that, one day, you will find your own connection to spirit.

Anonymous said...

That is one perverted site they are running, I especially like the photoshopped photo :D

Cosmic Connie said...

"Please do not mock what you do not understand."

Kathryn, if I had a dollar for every time I'd been given that piece of advice by the spiritually advanced...

I thank you for your input and insights, but ask you to consider that perhaps I am mocking things because I *do* understand what is going on.

You write, "There is no way that Grandma could know what I was thinking about or come to me in a dream if she were not telepathic."
While your dream may be very significant to you, as mine often are to me, having a dream about a person or situation you've been thinking about is perfectly normal. It does not prove that Grandma Chandra is telepathic. Nor does it prove that Cat is anything but a desperate mom seeking to raise money to help her raise her profoundly handicapped child. She has my sympathy and compassion, but to me her actions still reek of exploitation.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call the site "perverted," but it is definitely exploitative.

Anonymous said...

I myself do not find it exploitative, I'm sure all that attention and contact are good for the girl, I actually find it closer to fraud, and think it's offensive of her mother to prey on people's beliefs like that.

I'm actually curious whether she believes the stuff she spreads, or actually sits down and plans the next marketing gimmick.

Finally, I find it somewhat offensive that she didn't take the time to make proper fake pictures for that operation of hers :D

What I find unfortunate is that there probably are people out there that actually believe the story, and spend good money on it, not as help to the unfortunate, but expecting to buy some products that actually work. Oh well..

Cosmic Connie said...

Good points, Anon. And as for your speculation about whether the girl's mother actually believes her claims or is just planning the next marketing gimmick, I think the latter is closer to the truth.

Anonymous said...

Oh me oh my....Please remember sink or swim... The likes of you closed minds is never ending.. Please go enjoy your BIGMAC, take your pills and sleep the dreamy night away in GAP pj's. We wont be seeing you on the otherside....(creepy face) .]
(this may require you to read between the lines...I really only expect a snappy comeback)......love and light
lilmsindigo

Cosmic Connie said...

Oh, good Goddess, more "love and light" from yet another spiritually advanced and obviously fully awakened soul. I guess you can go put it on that big table in the corner with all the others. And if you have any friends who also want to gift me with "love and light" and New-Wage sanctimony, tell 'em I already got some.

There, is that snappy enough for you?

Anonymous said...

The next stage of human evolution is a spiritual one. this child like many of the new souls coming to our planet understands more about our universe than many people realise, sorry you are so sceptical, sad. may you find peace. and all the love and light in the world to you bless xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Cosmic Connie said...

And for my part, Anon, I'm sorry you are so gullible. xoxoxoxoxooxo etc.

Anonymous said...

I must admit that when I saw the web site, I didn't know what to think. This is either one of the most profound stories of our times or the most blatant example of exploitation since the Elephant Man. I've been conducting research on alien abuctions for a project I'm working on, and some of the things Grandma (or her mom) are saying seem to fit with some of the information that has come out during abductee regressions. Having said that, this is one I might just leave alone. The positive implications are profound, but if this is indeed a case of outright fraud and exploitation, the mother and all the other "hanlders" should be put in prison for it!

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon Sept. 30. 2010: I lean more towards the "exploitation" theory myself. As for alien abductee "regressions," I've always viewed those with skepticism because the scenarios are so commonly known as to have long since become cliches. Is it a case of hundreds of people having the same "experience," or hundreds of people repeating the same tales they've heard so many times before?

But I would not go so far as to suggest that "Grandma Chandra's" mom should be imprisoned. That's too harsh a punishment, IMO, and who would take care of the girl? I just think Mama Cat should be exposed for the phony she probably is, and let the chips fall where they may. OTOH, she will probably always find people who are so hungry to believe in the miraculous and in messages from another realm that they will swallow anything, even as they criticize folks like me for "mocking what we do not understand."

Neva said...

I met Grandmother Chandra at the Star Knowledge conference many years ago. I had one of the most profound experiences of my life after I got home from that conference. I received an activation from Grandmother Chandra. I was getting a massage at the time and her face leapt into view, inches from my own. Just as soon, it was gone. Then, I felt one of the most exquisite and powerful energetic baptisms I've ever known. It seemed to last forever and it changed me forever. At that time, there were no "tools" or cds or any of this other stuff. I have concerns that there may be exploitation afoot around the gift, but I have no doubt whatsoever about the gift. Grandmother Chandra is awesome and I thank her for one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had.

joel said...

Hey Cosmic Connie! Thank you for opening up this hilarious dialogue. I have to say I am very amused and impressed by your snappiness. There is no doubt that the fantastical nature of the sci-fi-like gifts purported inspires laughter. It's just so damn far out! What undeniable proof have we that any of this is true? And yet, what proof have we that it is not true? Sure, it's easy to criticize the "believers" who flutter around in "blind faith". Yet, I find it worth noting that those who believe in nothing more than can be 5-sensed are themselves equally as blind because they choose to believe in an absence rather than a presence.
And what motivation would there be to not believe? It seems only to protect oneself - from the shame, I suppose, of possibly being gullible. But flip it again and you find the same story with a different face. And the funny thing is, do we even need to believe in anything at all?!
These questions of reality are always fun to ponder. After all, could we be just a butterfly dreaming we are human? The thing is, people are discovering that science and metaphysics are closer-knit than many ever expected. For example, read The Living Universe by Duane Elgin. You'll be very stimulated by what you read. Then, order a Chi-Spinner - or ask for it for your birthday...it's the perfect gift for you. I wasn't sure about it, but I got one and...well, there's no use of me telling you - you gotta get one for yourself! And I know you will because you're a woman who means business! And because you mean business, And the funny thing is, we're all on the same side! All of us commentors here want ourselves and others to achieve the most fulfilling life we can and share values of fairness, honesty, equality and respect. I notice that what seems to drive your posting is a compassionate concern that people don't get taken advantage of, and that's honourable. Casting doubt on someone's intentions and integrity might not be the best way to express that...then again, it might be! However, if you have no direct experience of the person you are discrediting and have no intention of seeking an experience with them that would be able to give you the proof you needed...I understand that dropping money on something you've already decided is a sham seems foolish, but if you approach it with an air of whimsical fun, as if you were going to a movie(you never know how's it's going to be unless you've seen it before)you might find it easier to drop a little extra cash that you would've spent on a movie..or two..or whatever it costs to satisfy your curiosity. Because isn't satisfying a curiosity satisfying? In fact, could you even put a price on that? If you go headfirst into an adventure with an attitude of total openness, nothing to lose, you know what happens - you've traveled, you've been around. And I'll bet you can't get enough of that magic, and you'll keeping following it and finding it. And that's why you're Cosmic Connie, having a cosmic adventure on planet Earth.
So...Bless you?...uhhh, I mean..Love and Light!?..er...om namah shivaya?

Cosmic Connie said...

Neva, I'm glad you had a good experience. I still say it's exploitation.

Cosmic Connie said...

You sound like a jovial fellow, Joel; welcome to my party. For at least the past 35 years, New-Wage gurus, wannabes, and followers have been announcing the marriage of the ages: the holy union of science and metaphysics. I think Fritjof Capra got the ball rolling, and publishers have been on a roll since then.

Though the science-validates-metaphysics meme is not a new one, it continues to provide fodder for spirited debates, not to mention that the scientific-validation claim is one that gurus continue to exploit as marketing tools.

Quantum physics, for example, has been endlessly milked by the scalawags and scoundrels in The Secret (to name but one example of New-Wage appropriation of science). Long before The Secret, however, New-Wage gurus were claiming that discoveries in quantum physics validated their own teachings. Apparently there are some real quantum physicists who beg to differ.

You are correct in your implication that I don't personally know Mama Cat or her severely developmentally disabled child. But there are times when the writing on the wall is pretty clear even without a personal knowledge of the parties involved, and I happen to think this is one of those times. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Some say I am. Some claim to have had marvelous mystical experiences with "Grandma Chandra."

The question of whether or not there's some "magic" behind a gimmick like the Chi Spinner (and some would say there's no magic whatsoever)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ei2vWALEvA
...is pretty much irrelevant to my opinion that Mama Cat is not only exploiting her daughter but also all of the gullible people who pay to attend those sessions.

That said, my distaste for New-Wage magickal gimmicks doesn't mean that I don't find magic and mystery in the world around me. I can spend long periods of time simply watching hummingbirds or horses or stink bugs. Once I spent an entire hour watching a couple of walking sticks mating. Perhaps I'm just too easily amused.

Isochronous said...

Joel, I should remind you that the onus of proof is not on us skeptics to disprove something, but rather is on you, the believers, to prove it.

As far as "motivation to believe" goes, you should look up the term "cognitive dissonance." Maybe you'll be enlightened.

Anonymous said...

I think what is up over there is obviously exploitation and hoax. BUT, I would like to point out that I think you are alleging a lower level of intelligence in Chandra than she has. You say over and over that she is unable to speak or communicate, but the website says she uses a Canon communication device. I know a kid who uses one of those, and it is basically a machine that a person can type into and it then "speaks". They are great for people who have no verbal speech.

So yes, she can communicate. I point this out only because while I think your intentions are good, you are presenting an unfair and untrue picture of a disabled person. Being disabled and unable to speak does not mean she is unable to communicate.

As for the rest, yeah, I think it is a hoax perpetrated by her mom. And it is SO transparent. I don't understand how it is that there are people who don't see right through it. It's ridiculous.

Chibi said...

Exploitation? Perhaps. Though only considered thus by those who clutch so tightly to their materially wrought goods. And should it be a surprise that those so materially driven would find such cause for single minded skepticism? I argue not for either side of the debate, all are free to choose their own beliefs. Though consider that a belief is just a thought that you keep thinking. What gives it credence over anothers? Let experience be your "onus of proof", as there is no need to ensure others believe the same as you. Can you imagine, let others be as they will, without judgement or condemnation? What a wonderful world it would be! To feel your own truth, from within. And not have it dictated to you from without. Be free in your own thoughts, and allow others the privilege of same. For to spend a life trying to control the conditions of the outside world, trying to bang others in to a place you think is the "right" one, is a life ill spent, in illusion, trying to do the impossible. This wonderful Earth will progress, thankfully, away from the male dominated energy that befuddles it. My "proof" of the male dominated energy? 90% of us are right handed. I.E. Left brained - the male hemisphere. Ask yourself a few more questions about the nature of reality, and you may come to realize that none, science or religion, can come close to defining it. In the end, it is easier, and so much more comfortable, to maintain the habits of thought you've always known. Why try to expand your own knowing, through experience and an open mind, when you can instead stay crouched in your comfortable little box of so called "knowing". For those who are sceptical, only an in your face showing will do. Even if such a showing will likely be an un-truth designed to further encapsulate you in the energy of fear and slavery. Learn to be your own being, not the being you have been trained to be.

Anonymous said...

I would have enjoyed this post a lot more if you had paid the $33 for a reading and could have reported your experience here. Otherwise, you are just another naysayer among many. Kind of like those who bash products without ever trying them. Their opinions are irrevelant.

Otherwise, great blog and you share many concerning points.

Anonymous said...

Hi
They came to my part of the world-ME- and they have many followers who desperately want to believe!! I joined a session and i must say i am shocked how easy "mum"gets away with her stories....
Non of it shows any sign of "proof" neither seem grandma really be intersted in communicating with her mum. But she had all these "non-committing" answers prefabricated...

And of course there is always something you should "get" from her, to be enlighted. Distgusted a

Sugar Puss said...

I was open-minded and told myself to believe in things beyond my comfort and logic level and to accept that a very advanced soul could be in the body of Chandra. I found the website to be disturbing at first , but then after visiting many times and having also received The Whale Codes via another source, decided to try two essences. Their website I found is not always user-friendly, like when trying to purchase a specific teleseminar, however a difficulty I had in my purchase of the 2 essences came from paying with Paypal that made it difficult to change my old address that I definitely had already removed from my account profile. The order went through with my old address and I immediately contacted the phone number in Arizona for Cat and then sent 3 different emails, including a reply of the automated thank you email you receive when purchasing. It took Cat 3 days to respond, almost as annoying as the outrageous $8 shipping fee for a total weight of 1oz. being shipped from AZ to CA. When she did respond she said she hadn't been on the computer, even though she friended me on FB in that time and wouldn't acknowledge my voice message via phone to her. She told me her husband shipped it to the old address ! She also informed me that Chandra had experienced a seizure. I am very sympathetic to any care provider and had some understanding but told her it wasn't ok that she ignored my attempts to contact her as Paypal's order already went through while I was trying to change the shipping information. Her response is that Chandra comes before emails and voice messaging. I told her I agreed Chandra is a priority , however this is not satisfactory. I had to open a Paypal case against her and she immediately responded within minutes to that with an apologetic tone and asked if I wanted a refund. I requested that and by the end of the day she replied with simply, no problem, tomorrow. That took more effort than clicking on the refund button in Paypal. I am at this time without my refund and my feeling is she took advantage of my order going through with my old address as an excuse to say she completed the order by delivering it without providing any tracking as proof of her "attempt". Dealing with her for the purchase of products has been very unsettling and not what I would expect from spiritual people who tout themselves as teachers to this planet.
I ordered an mp3 from Almine's site tonight and was so impressed with the seamless and effortless quality of purchasing through there. That experience gave me an uplifting feeling that for me reflected the high vibrations that she holds.

Anonymous said...

Grandma Chrandra, Inc. is a profit making corporation that exploits the beliefs and wishes of seekers and other believers of faith as a solution.

Chandra's mother is a charismatic sociopath who makes her living through a magic act inspired by the late Elizabeth Claire Prophet.

Its a magic act that makes money and makes the believers feel like they are a special and important spiritual beings, receiving special wisdom from Ascended Masters.

The Bisbee videos are a sad, sad, spectacle of capitalistic spiritualism.

Grandma Chandra, Inc. is a corporation, not a real person.

EvdM said...

Seeing comments like 'charismatic sociopath' coming from people who have never met the person they talk about makes me wonder if my effort to do Grandma Chandra some justice will be worth my time.But here we go...
I have had contact with Grandma Chandra for years, as with her Mum.
Chandra received her title 'Grandma' from a Native American chief with whom she telepathed knowledge that only elders of his tribe were privy to. Telepathing means communicating without words, remember ? Her Mom was not involved in 'translating' these communications.
I have personally witnessed this silent communication a few times. And there are many other telepaths for Chandra that are not involved financially.
It is correct that no one can know for sure if the translation of Chandra's messages is trustworthy...as goes for most seers,readers and mediums in my opinion.
There have been many group gatherings with Grandma Chandra in the past that I have been part of where only a fraction of the time was spent on telepathing through her Mum others and others.
People were introduced that helped organize the event and then music was put on for a first meditation after which all were SILENT. People then could experience their own telepathic contact with Grandma Chandra.
There is an important difference between looking at the role of her Mum and the gift of Chandra. I can relate to some of the milder comments on marketing but I know -for example- that the dentist was expensive indeed as her disability meant that she had to have narcosis to be able to work on her very challenged and sensitive teeth.
Lashing out with critical and even nasty comments without knowing more about what her disabilities imply or not having had the experience of meeting Grandma Chandra yourself is plain negative talking. And that includes anyone writing a blog with words collected from articles etc. It is like being a reporter with a blindfold on.
My life has moved on and I have no contact with Chandra's Mum anymore but Chandra's telepathic qualities are ever present. And ...they never got rich from all this ... nor did I or anyone around them. And yes, there are many new age con artists out there.
Grandma Chandra truly has -in my experience- unique gifts albeit in a challenged body and environment.