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Thursday, April 17, 2014

AXS of evil: GIN sale pending


Note: This post was originally published on 17 April 2014. Several important updates have been made since then; they are below the original post, so be sure to read everything. ~CC

Remember what I've been saying all along about there being

no neat and tidy endings
in Scamworld?

Well, after months of speculation and flying rumors, it seems there's a sale pending for jailed serial scammer Kevin Trudeau's huge scam, the Global Information Network, or GIN. Yesterday GIN sent out an email (screen shot courtesy of
Bernie O'Mahony at GINtruth.com):




Seems there's this group called AXS Investment Group, with Troy McClain, longtime Trudeau buddy/cheerleader and hustledork in his own right, at the helm.

I wonder what AXS stands for. Could the "A" be for Athorn, as in Blaine Athorn, an even longer-time Katie buddy and co-huckster? (
Here's an April 24, 2013 Whirled post with a bit of Blaine and Katie's history.) Some speculate that Athorn is indeed involved, along with two other slimy Katie buds, Chris "Voldemort" McGarahan and Jeff Devine of the Hybrid Group money-funneling operation... oops, I mean EVENT PLANNING COMPANY. Other buzz has it that Jeff isn't part of the purchase group but that Greg Kramer, of GIN Store fame, is.

My understanding is that as a private investment group, the AXS of evil is not under any obligation to reveal the names of all of the parties involved. So at this point I have not been able to confirm for sure if Athorn et al. are involved; the only name on the "official" announcement was Troy's. I'll let you know when/if any more documents become available for public consumption. But given that Athorn's nose has been up Katie for decades, it would be surprising if he didn't have his fat little hand in the pie somewhere, somehow.



At any rate it goes without saying that a lot of people will be pretty ticked off if this sale, which of course is subject to final approval by Judge Robert Gettleman, goes through. As I understand it, the court has wiped away the liabilities so any purchaser(s) will be buying GIN free and clear (at least from a monetary standpoint; courts don't directly address matters of karma).
 
In case you don't recall who Troy McClain is, he was one of Kevin's cheerleaders, and one who was pushing hard to keep people from leaving GIN in droves in the latter days. He's apparently most famous for having been on the comically repulsive Donald Trump's "reality" show, The Apprentice. Troy was the country boy that everyone fell in love with, according to Troy. He failed three times as project manager, and got fired on Week 12 of Season 1, original air date April 1, 2004. He was fired mostly because he sometimes used unethical business practices during the interview process, and partly because he only had a high school diploma. 

The Jan. 12, 2014 update towards the end of
this Whirled post has a bit about him, as do some of the comments.


Troy was/is a proud member of the GIN "faculty."



Troy has been very close with the GIN United group of GIN"leadership" and Katie buds, who have been talking for months about purchasing GIN.

And here's Troy in 2011, shilling with old-school hustledork Ron Ball on behalf of Katie and GIN. I think this one is pretty disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgr9UjW1Ops


And here he is around the same time, lying to people about how easy Katie's version of the hCG diet is (he seems a little coked-up, but maybe he just had allergies):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRIkLBhegY

Besides the KT Radio Network web site URL on that video, there's an hCG web site URL that, when you attempt to follow it, redirects to http://hcgchicago.com. According to that site, the "hCG support team" is led by one Thomas Drost, M.D., N.D., F.A.C.S., and his wife Lisa Drost, N.D. An alert reader pointed out to me that Dr. Drost is also a hemorrhoid doc who treats hemorrhoids and cures anal fissures in DuPage County and Chicagoland. Funny. On that 2011 KT vid I linked to above, Troy yammered on a bit about he LOVES to go fishing and always has. He gabs about both literal and metaphorical fishing. So... Troy is a fisherman. Dr. Drost is a fissure man. This opens up a whole new world of interesting Photoshopping possibilities. But I digress.

Here's more about what a superstar and master brander and co-brander our Troy is.
http://theitfactorradio.com/alycia-kaback/tune-check-factor-features-troy/


And here's more about why you should hire Troy for all of his expert expertise.

Anyway. You get the drift. Troy seems perfectly poised to be a front guy who will take GIN to the next level of scamming. (His web site does say he specializes in "turnarounds.")

And besides, Katie has been on his client list for a few years now; note the "Natural Cures" and "Stand With KT" (his original legal defense fund) logos in the lineup below:

I see new infomercials in the making, with Troy as one of the spokes-hucksters. Maybe they can even get some really big names in Scamworld to join in the fun. It remains to be seen whether or not the GIN MLM/"affiliate" program will be reinstated; I do know that several of the prospective purchasers were very interested in exploring this possibility.


It also remains to be seen how or if the
SciWINtologists, led by former GINtervenor and ex-con Perry Kiraly (and Scientology fan Yon Vetter Cole) will be involved. When their Plan A to snatch GIN from the clutches of the receiver failed in court, they began focusing in earnest on Plan B, and have been trying for months to cobble a GIN ripoff called WIN, or World Information Network. In the process they probably ran up a huge attorney bill, so expect some Shimkos to still be hovering around somewhere. But they have been kind of silent for the past several weeks, although Yon did send me a private message on Facebook explaining exactly why he is NOT a Scientologist. I told him to tell it to the blog. He said he might, but hasn't yet. [NOTE: See April 20 update below. ~CC]

The heads of another failing GIN ripoff, the IMBS-ing U MasterBaiter's Society, are already telling folks to write to the judge, though.


In his blog post about this pending sale, Bernie made note of this bit from the announcement email:

AXS and its management team will now be actively working hard to make our club the best it can be with the commitment to never over promise and under deliver.
Spoken like a true Scamworld scammer. "We promise not to screw you; trust us!"

At this point it seems entirely possible that even the hopelessly caged Katie might still have a hand in the club, even from behind bars. (Unless Judge G says no to the sale, of course -- but another group of Katie pals could always step up to the table.) The point is that Trudeau's legacy lives on. And despite the many folks who will be outraged if the sale is finalized, there are also many, many people who still love Katie nearly to the point of worship, and think that his conviction and sentence are gross injustices, and want more than anything for his legacy to continue through GIN. As I've noted on this blog before, the GIN "leadership" are going to have to find a way to pander to both the Katie lovers and the Katie haters.

But one way or the other, it seems that GIN is still alive and kicking.

As I said... no neat and tidy endings. There rarely are, in Scamworld.
Update, 20 April 2014:
We didn't have to wait long to see what the SciWINtologists are up to. They are apparently going ahead with their plan to compete head to head with GIN. Time to stock up on more popcorn and beer! This was sent out early Easter morning:



From: [email address redacted]
Sent: 4/20/2014 1:41:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: WIN Update 04-19-14

April 19th 2014

WIN Update:

Dear WIN Members & Supporters,
March 31st concluded the time line of the Private Placement Memorandum and we did well.

The launch of WIN’s Website is currently on target for early May.

An introduction video was professionally filmed on April 10th and should soon be completed and up for viewing and release to everyone for use in the promotion of WIN. The video outlines what the club is all about as well as the benefits and value of membership.

After months of consulting with WIN’s MLM attorney Thayer C. Lindauer, WIN has completed a sponsorship compensation plan Member/Affiliate program that I think will excite nearly everyone.

A few of the highlights of the Member/Affiliate program are:

Commission eligibility requires only one non-affiliate member in good standing personally sponsored in your downline; period. Not one per month – one non-affiliate member; period (and it doesn’t matter when that member was sponsored in as long as they’re in good standing you are commission eligible).

High percentage commission’s payback on the first four levels:
L-1: 20%, L-2: 20%, L-3: 5%, and L-4: 5%.

Our MLM attorney has thoroughly vetted this sales program for compliance with MLM rules & regulations and has authorized its use on a worldwide basis.

Upon the launch of the WIN site the Member/Affiliate program will be up and running.

To further start WIN’s site launch off right and in honor of former GIN Members - for thirty days from the date of launch the membership fee of $1,000.00 will be waved.

To join and become a member, initiation of your monthly dues of $150.00 is all that is necessary. To take advantage of the waved membership fee you will simply use the sponsor/affiliate code WIN or the code of the WIN Member that sponsors you in.

To all former GIN members that had downlines, and plan to participate in WIN’s Member/Affiliate program, now is the time to begin calling your downlines in preparation for the launch of WIN’s Website. Once the website is launched you can sign up using the WIN sponsor code. You will then be given your own code to sponsor Members under you. If any Member of your former downline inadvertently uses the WIN code and actually wanted to be and requests to be back in your downline that request can be granted.

Additionally, all former GIN member training levels achieved will be honored in WIN if you join within the 30-day period from launch. There will be additional testing requirements to acquire the equivalent Pin Level in WIN but no charge for the upgrade.

Lastly, negotiations with the Wynn Hotel Resort in Las Vegas http://www.wynnlasvegas.com/ are underway to do WIN’s first major event there. Details will be forthcoming.

Finally, WIN’s official Facebook page is up and running. Click on: https://www.facebook.com/WINFDN?ref=hl to connect with us. WIN’s official Linkedin and Twitter page is also under construction and will soon be available.

Thank you and have an excellent day,
Perry Kiraly,
Executive Director, World Information Network
With a convicted felon at the helm, WIN members who miss GIN should feel right at home. 

Update, 21 April 2014
Here is the court document filed today, regarding the terms of the proposed sale of GIN. Proposed sale price is $200k, with a few terms and conditions, including, for a period of one year, payments equivalent to 8% of the member dues for existing members, and 4% for new members. Favorite Whirled wag Tim Donohoe noted, "Essentially they are paying for a mailing list of suckers and paying the FTC a commission on everyone who stays suckered or gets suckered into GIN in the future." (At least for a year, anyway.)

Tim mused, "Not a bad deal for an up and coming scammer." Yep.

But as I noted above, if the sale is approved, the purchasers will not be purchasing any liabilities incurred by Kevin Trudeau's mismanagement. There may be some lawsuits filed by disgruntled ex-GINfolk, not to mention some justified ill will. But they won't have much luck getting any of their money back, since the court has wiped away the liabilities. And as I've said, there are still plenty of folks who love Katie.


What the purchasers will have is the intellectual property, including those all-important mailing lists. The various GIN ripoffs such as IBMS and WIN are probably seething with envy over the lists alone. There's still a chance that the purchasers can make money with the new, rebranded GIN. People seem to have an endless need to feel "special," and they'll pay dues to feel special, particularly if they think they can make some money from selling other people a chance to feel special. And the prospective purchasers have indicated that they will explore the possibility of starting up a new affiliate program. Hold on to your wallets.

As I've noted before on this Whirled, there is a bit of historical precedent here. Landmark Forum grew to a worldwide multi-million dollar company after the sleazy Werner Erhard (supposedly) sold the intellectual property that was est. So the people who are crowing that the prospective purchasers of GIN are making a bad business decision don't really know what they're talking about.

Meanwhile, Katie struggles to get his appeal going. He's claiming to be too poor to afford the filing fee, so he filed a form stating that he's a pauper. I saw the court docs the other day and shared them on Facebook.
ABC7 (Chicago) picked up the story too.

UPDATE: Motion denied on April 24. The judge isn't buying that Trudeau is a pauper and can't afford the filing fee (click to enlarge).


Update, 24 April 2014
So apparently there was a GIN Conference call on the evening of April 23, 2014. My friend John Foster, one of the Founding Members of GIN and author of the new book, Kevin Trudeau's Road Kill Victims "He" Doesn't Want You To Know About (I'll be writing about it soon), informed some of us on Facebook that the call was "to announce the new GIN club owners, now the Five Amigos, Blaine Athorn, Chris McGarahan, Jeff Devine, Greg Kramer, and Troy McClain. The new GIN saviours."

So it appears that the buzz that Bernie and I had been hearing for months, and had heard more about recently, was pretty much spot-on. Apparently both Jeff and Greg are part of this deal.

Of course, the sale is still subject to final approval by the court. The receiver was scheduled to have formally appeared in Judge Gettleman's court today to present the Receiver’s Motion for Entry of an Order (A) Setting Hearing for Approval of the Sale of GIN Club Assets and (B) Approving the Form and Manner of Notice (which I linked to above,
but here it is again). I'll post any updates but there's nothing on PACER yet as of this writing.

Meanwhile, the begging continues for caged Katie
As expected, Trudeau is going to appeal that ten-year prison sentence, but that costs money. So his good buddy in the UK, Lee Kenny, current "owner" of Natural Cures, used the NC platform to send out a begging email. Here it is in its entirety, with the usual Cosmic annotations:
Can you make a miracle happen for Kevin Trudeau?
For those of you who’ve been following the case of Kevin Trudeau, original author of the Natural Cures books, you’ll probably be aware that he was sentenced to 10 years in prison for his infomercial for the Weight Loss Cure book.

Reports of a former congressman having to be hauled out of court after showing outrage, tells you all you need to know about the fairness of the sentence.

What will you watch on TV tonight?

As you watch TV this evening and see the incredible before & after shots of the latest Diet or Fad, or hyped-up claims for some life changing vacuum cleaner, spare a thought for Kevin, but also for any other would-be advocate for Natural health or process that bucks the system.

Money, Money, Money
Like in any case there are appeals that can be filed, but after 10 years the Attorneys still need paying, research needs to be thorough and maybe, just maybe his legal counsel can find a way to release him much sooner. The lawyers must go back and review every word said in the case and research the law to its fullest.

Now Kevin is a resourceful guy.

If it were up to Kevin, He’d write a book or some marketing for a firm who could pay him what its worth and he could use that cash to defend himself. Unfortunately though every penny he could earn would not be his own, it would be turned over to pay the crazy $37m judgment. So his friends have created something to try and help him raise funds for his next round of legal challenges.
[Actually,
on a vid last June he babbled a bit about how he pretty much knows he is going to prison, but will take the time to write a book while he's there. I wrote about it on this June 7, 2013 post. So don't give up on the book dream yet, Lee, even if he doesn't complete it in time to fund his appeal. ~CC]

Los Angeles 10th May:
There will be a huge rally in honor of Kevin in Los Angeles on Saturday 10th May. All of his close friends, well-known speaker and many others will be on hand to help raise money on Kevin’s behalf for his continued legal defense. No contribution is too small and every little bit will help in the quest to free Kevin!

Can’t Make Los Angeles?

There are no other planned events, the deadlines mean the lawyers either get on this or not, so if you can’t attend, then any donation would be greatly appreciated. You may have already given in the past, but if you feel like Kevin improved your life in any way, and you can afford to, then it would be wonderful to have you support Kevin one last time.

I wouldn’t ask you to do something I wouldn’t do.

I’ve known Kevin a long time, just over 15 years in fact. I know his good and his bad points and I know this is not a fair fight. Whether people agree with what he has said, no-one can feel that 10 years is a just sentence for what he said in an advertisement.

As many of you know Court records have shown that I’ve donated a 6-figure sum so far from my businesses towards these legal fights.
[See info below. ~CC] Not because I owe Kevin anything legally but because I believe in him and what he stood for. I don’t tell you this to brag, believe me there are days my businesses could use that money, but to demonstrate that this is a cause worth supporting.

Donate Now
If you’ve read Napoleon Hill’s books…

The similarities between the inmate that Napoleon Hill describes in his Laws of Success books and Kevin are incredible. No he’s not a saint, but his personality will lead him to use the time he has to help others.

Through friends and email (Who’d have thought email was possible in these circumstances!) Kevin has been sharing his high, lows & pearls of wisdom on Facebook continuing to help people and think of others, even whilst incarcerated.
[Ha! Those 'pearls of wisdom,' written by Katie's proxy, smell more like the 'nuggets' in my cats' litter boxes. ~CC]

So if you can, here’s the website to make a donation.
http://ktlegaldefense.com/KT_Legal_Defense/Welcome

If you can attend, you’ll get tremendous value. Sharing a common goal with some wonderful speakers and of course with the other attendees too. If you can’t attend, please do consider donating anyway, it will be very much appreciated.

Thank you for your consideration.

Best Wishes

Lee Kenny
Owner & CEO: NaturalCures.com

PS - Once you contribute and are confirmed you will be sent our hotel discount link)
PPS – I just heard that the people operating the Website are closing it after the event, so this will be your last chance to help other than sending money directly to Kevin’s attorneys.
Funny. I had just mentioned Lee Kenny the other day on a thread, wondering what he was thinking or doing since the sentencing, and mentioning what a "deal" he got when he bought Natural Cures for $100k (as reported by former GIN CFO Michael Dow in a May 2013 deposition).

As you may know if you've been following this saga, Lee has been pretending to be cooperative with the courts, but apparently the receivers ultimately gave up on getting any useful info from him about hidden money. But more importantly, as I also recall from court docs,
and as I wrote about last August, Natural Cures was set up in the first place to feed KT's legal defense fund. Here is a direct link to some August 2013 court documents that clearly state when and why Natural Cures Health Institute (NCHI) was set up.

So this all makes sense. And Lee's claim that he has already donated six figures from his own pocket towards Katie's legal defense... well, that seems a little deceptive.

Of note, Lee has also used the Natural Cures platform more than once to send out email promos for his and Kevin's $997
Baccarat scam (also mentioned a few times on this Whirled). I wonder if all of that dirty money goes to Katie's defense.

The
terms on the current KT Defense Fund page are simple: Everything goes to pay Kevin's "management and legal fees," and all amounts are strictly nonrefundable.

I still believe that the ten-year sentence is a little harsh, particularly in light of the fact that convicted killer and star of The Secret James Arthur Ray served less than two years for killing three people (and hasn't even been called to account for a fourth death at another event).
And now he's back in the Scamworld pool, teaching people how to "turn crisis into opportunity." Kevin wrecked many lives, but as far as I know didn't kill anyone.

Even so, he's a serial scammer, and most likely incorrigible. And I feel for the well-meaning people who are suckered into continuing to throw money at him, believing that they are somehow fighting the good fight.


Update, 26 April 2014
This "Message from the Receiver" was sent out by GIN to the GIN mailing list on the evening of April 25 (click to enlarge). The receiver will appear before the court on May 27 to seek the judge's approval of the sale of GIN's assets to Troy, Blaine, Chris, et al. (AXS). Protestors have until May 12 at 5:00 PM CDT to file their objections with the court. This should be interesting. I wonder if any of the sleazes and lunatics running the GIN ripoffs will bother to protest. Of course I'm not suggesting that everyone who protests this sale is a sleaze or a lunatic. I think the sale is a bad idea myself. But Scamworld runs on bad ideas, and for the most part the government and the courts turn a blind eye.

In addition, the receiver finally has finally uploaded the April 16 court document regarding the sale. Here is that link. And here is the link to Robb Evans' Kevin Trudeau page.

Update, 5 May 2014
More documents in the Kevin Trudeau civil case; filed on April 28, 2014. These are regarding the pending sale of GIN to AXS Consulting, LLC. Here the receiver explains in more detail than in previous docs why they want to sell GIN to AXS and not to others. Also, as discussed previously, they want to sell GIN "free and clear." (Hence the document title: RECEIVER’S MOTION FOR ENTRY OF AN ORDER APPROVING SALE OF GIN CLUB ASSETS FREE AND CLEAR OF ALL LIENS, CLAIMS AND ENCUMBRANCES.) As mentioned previously, the deadline for filing objections to the sale is May 12, and a hearing will be held, and the sale presumably finalized, on May 27.

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13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like "The Judge and GIN Destroyer" hasn't finished the job......

Friday, April 18, 2014 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Yep, Anon, it sure does look like that, doesn't it? Apart from the fact that Kevin Trudeau would have ended up in jail/prison even if the "GIN Destroyer" had never opened his mouth, GIN had and has too much profit potential to just be allowed to fall by the wayside. The "GIN Destroyer" makes fun of Troy and gang as "losers," but the truth is that Troy has much more mainstream appeal -- and potential appeal -- than the [IBMS Master's Society] "Supreme Partners" who have propped up the "GIN Destroyer" all these months. And that's something that should concern people who care about the bigger picture in Scamworld. IBMS is an easy target for critics because it's so patently absurd and because its "leaders," particularly that daft Coldwell, are so obviously ridiculous. They still have the potential to do harm, but they don't have the "TV appeal" that someone like Troy does.

ON the other hand, visualize GIN rebranded and brought back to TV infomercials, with Troy as front guy, perhaps, or maybe "life coach" Coral Thomas, enhanced by the appearance of some real "names" in Scamworld... think of the damage THAT could do. (For an example, we only have to look to young huckster Anthony Morrison being endorsed on infomercials by Mark Victor Hansen of Chicken Soup fame. See, for instance, Salty Droid, "Scamming Two Debbies.")

I have to wonder if the infamous Donald Barrett is involved in any of this, in any way. Some buzz has indicated he might be.

At any rate it appears to me that the IBMS principals are sorta sucking on sour grapes, and I am pretty sure that when urging people to write to Judge Gettleman, they are not purely motivated by concern for the GIN members who lost money.

I still wonder how the GIN movie that's in the works will spin this, though. The screenplay may go through a dozen or more iterations before it's all done, and the story could be spun just about any way. If it paints the "GIN Destroyer" as the hero who broke GIN and sent Katie to jail, it will definitely be total fiction.

Friday, April 18, 2014 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Doc Bunkum said...

I wonder what AXS stands for. Could the "A" be for Athorn, as in Blaine Athorn, an even longer-time Katie buddy and co-huckster?

I don't think there's anything esoteric about what AXS stands for. Probably just an acronym for "access".

If you read the AXS corporate page, they use that word a lot. ie:

"AXS is a full service consulting company.... Our main goal is to help companies gain access to the experts needed... We also have access to private money, private equity firms, .... AXS delivers strategic planning, organization, guidance, access to investors.." and so on and so forth.

The three principals in the company were Troy McClain, David Cohen, and Jonathan D. Rudolph, Esq.

I say "were" because there's a "Defunct" notice by the company. But the interesting thing is, the phone number for the AXS Investment Group reverts back to The McClain Companies - Troy McClain's business out there in Boise ID. So who knows what's going on really.

Friday, April 18, 2014 1:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This effectively makes the government a scam broker.

It is utterly insane that any court would allow a scam to be sold as an ongoing business.

GIN should have been liquidated as furniture and fixtures, and nothing more.

Instead, the government is selling off sucker lists, and in doing so, providing a faux seal of legitimacy for a scam.

This is absolutely outrageous.

Friday, April 18, 2014 1:44:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Thanks, Doc. I was more or less being facetious about the "A" possibly standing for "Athorn"... AXS lends itself to so many possibilities, though. (There seem to be other AXS companies around as well. Popular acronym, that.) And really, who knows who all is involved in this. But one thing seems certain: If GIN becomes a real money maker again, most of that money will go into the pockets of a few principals. Bidness as usual.

Friday, April 18, 2014 1:53:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Yes, Anon Friday, April 18, 2014 1:44:00 PM... it would make the government a scam broker. But I guess that isn't too surprising. For the most part, the FTC has been pretty tolerant of lots of scams, including most MLMs, and the courts have been too. This is truly a story that not only lacks any neat and tidy endings, but also, by and large, lacks heroes.

Friday, April 18, 2014 1:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Klifton said...

You guys are just pissed off because GIN will remain! You "Connie" like to tear people down for whatever reason, especially if it's anyone even closely associated with the word GIN. Why not build people up? Are you seriously going to sit behind a computer and write things that are subjective about this club your whole life? Don't you have something else better to do with your time? I'm just curious. If you really are open about your writings and have the guts to defend your statements, then you will post this. But I've noticed "Comment moderation has been enabled. All comments must be approved by the blog author." Remember who you really are.

Friday, April 18, 2014 4:10:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Hi, Klifton, and welcome. "Comments are moderated" because if they weren't, my blog would be flooded with penis enlargement ads and all kinds of spam. Sometimes people write comments and are frustrated because they are not published right away. But that's because I don't happen to be signed in to my blog at the moment. I always publish comments unless they are spam.

I'm not surprised that GIN will remain and I am not pissed off about it either. Just making note that scams go on. In fact I've been saying for a long time that GIN will go on, contrary to what the "GIN Destroyer" and a couple of his sleazy supporters have been saying.

And speaking of sleazy supporters... some of the people such as the IBMS Master's Society "leaders" may be really pissed off, because they know GIN has a better chance of being a money maker than their failed, miserable little GIN ripoff.

And I have no doubt that many ex GIN members are pissed off, and rightly so, because they lost money that they will never get back. I feel for them (but not for the IBMS jokers).

I appreciate your concern with my time management. I have plenty of things to do with my time, but this hobby blog is one thing that I enjoy and that I have come to think is rather important. That's why I'm still doing it, after nearly eight years.

Finally, I don't know why you put my name in quotation marks. My name really IS Connie. I am an individual. I am not sure what you mean by "remember who you really are." Is that some sort of metaphysical/spiritual thing about remembering that we're all spiritual beings, or are you insinuating that I am not really Connie Schmidt, aka Cosmic Connie?

But thanks for stopping in, and enjoy the new GIN! I'm sure Troy and his grinning gang of canary-eating cats will find new ways to extract your money, if you have any left.

PS ~ I sit in front of my computer, not behind it. There's no room behind it.

Friday, April 18, 2014 4:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Klifton, don't you have an audio tape you should be listening to. Please don't forget to check it off your daily check list. It should be did you tell your partner you love them within the first 5 minutes being awake. You're a bunch of pathetic gullible brain washed fools. I can not believe you GIN FOOLS are so weak minded.

Bill Grant

Friday, April 18, 2014 7:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Doc Bunkum said...

"And here he is (Troy McClain) around the same time, lying to people about how easy Katie's version of the hCG diet is:"

What a pair of dirtbags. Do your own research before falling for this malarkey.

"The hCG diet limits you to 500 calories a day for 8 weeks while taking hCG." Gee, do you think just maybe it might be the starvation level calories that are doing the trick and not the hCG?

If you check, there isn't a single peer reviewed, scientific study to back up the claims that hCG has any effect on weight loss. In fact, just the opposite.

Oh wait! I was wrong. In 1973, Asher and Harper tested the HCG diet on 40 overweight women for 6 weeks. The study was published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

Asher and Harper found that women getting HCG injections lost more weight than those who received a placebo. It was also found that A&H had “an active practice using HCG for weight reduction.” Gee, how about that!

In 1976 M.R. Stein and colleagues decided to test the HCG diet using a similar protocol to the Asher and Harper study. 51 women were split into 2 groups:

* One group received daily injections of HGC (125 units)
* The other group received injections of a saline placebo

All women were put on the identical 500 calorie diet as in the Asher and Harper study. Women were also instructed to drink 8-10 glasses of water per day. The study lasted 32 days.

The findings? The HCG diet did not help weight loss. "There was no statistically significant difference in the means of the two groups in number of injections received, weight loss, percent of weight loss, hip and waist circumference, weight loss per injections, or in hunger ratings. HCG does not appear to enhance the effectiveness of a rigidly imposed regimen for weight reduction."

And that's the findings of every other study. In other words, the whole thing is just a scam. But that's not really surprising, is it?

Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Bill Grant -- that's a good reminder of how obsessive GIN members are taught to be. It's indoctrination -- brainwashing -- pure and simple.

Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Doc: Katie's diet is of course based loosely on the controversial protocol outlined in the 1950s by Dr. Simeons. But Trudeau added a whole lot of expensive (and obsessive) steps to it. All so he could sell more stuff, of course. I can't see how anyone who truly followed everything he recommended could possibly find the diet and maintenance anything but grueling. Here's some perspective from the Skeptical Inquirer web site:
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/kevin_trudeaus_18000_weight_loss_plan_a_book_review

Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

To the Anonymous commenter who tried to post here a couple of days ago (around April 25 or 26) about how unjust the sale of GIN is: I apologize, but I "lost" your comment. I received it via my email on my iPhone and tried to publish it from there, but couldn't get through the maze of cookies settings. I don't like to mess with cookies settings on my phone. So I decided I would just wait until I got to my computer and then open my email from there, and publish the comment. But apparently the comment got lost in iPhone limbo somewhere, and was not on my server. Now I can't find it anywhere. If possible, could you re-send? It was a good comment and I really wanted to publish it; I should have just waited until I got to my computer in the first place. :-)

FYI, for those who may recall that I'd previously said the comments had stopped coming to me via email: For some reason the comments are once again coming in through email, so I am more likely to see them sooner than was the case when I had to be signed in to Blogger to see them. I do appreciate all comments!

Monday, April 28, 2014 11:50:00 AM  

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