Wednesday, May 21, 2008

On a would-be marriage, and a horse's ACCESS

Just a couple of updates before I return to my "day job"...


"What did the president know, and when did he know it?"
Boy, do I have egg on my face. I've been writing about what I perceived as the alliance between Joe "Mr. Fire" Vitale and David "Succeed Magazine" Schirmer. Well, it turns out that, according to Joe, there is no such alliance after all. On Joe's blog today I saw this comment, sent in response to Joe's post about making the cover of Succeed:
  1. Joe Kersey says

    Congratulations, Joe! I expect we’ll be hearing a lot more out of your collaboration with David Schirmer. It’s obvious from his blog that he’s excited about it. The two of you should make a really powerful team!

    May 21st, 2008 | #

  2. Joe Vitale says

    Hi Joe. I don’t know David and am not collaborating on anything with him, so not sure what you know that I don’t. Succeed magazine simply did a feature on me, which I’m grateful for. I didn’t even know he was associated with the magazine till after it was all said and done. Anyway, I apprecaite [sic] your words of congratulations. Succeed is a great and inspiring magazine. Richard Branson was on the last cover, so my being on the next one is beyond flattering. Now I want to receive as much wealth as Branson - or more.
    Blessings,
    joe :)

Oh, dear. So I guess there never really was a marriage in the first place. And I guess we are also to assume that Joe didn't know David Schirmer himself was listening in on the conversation when the editor of Succeed Magazine did the interview. Schirmer recently wrote on his own blog:

Wednesday, 23 April 2008

Opps!! [sic] I'd better write another blog.

Time flies so fast when you're having fun! I can hardly believe it is so long since I wrote my last blog. A friend on msn suggested today that I should post again ... so here I am.

There is much too much to write about to bring you up to date, so I'll share with you just a little of my day today.

At 7:30am the editor of our Succeed Magazine phoned Texas, USA. It was a special call to an amazing man, friend and co-presenter on The Secret, Dr Joe Vitale. I enjoyed immensely sitting in and listening to Joe's story.
Shame on Schirmer for eavesdropping without informing Joe he was doing so. And shame on him for claiming that Joe is a friend of his when Joe says he doesn't even know David.

I guess we can also assume that someone besides David Schirmer contacted Joe about being in/on Succeed Magazine in the first place – and being in/on it not once, but twice (an article of Joe's also appeared in the April-May issue). So maybe Succeed was being a little less than honest for not disclosing to Joe that David Schirmer was the publisher. But heck, it's "a great and inspiring magazine," according to Joe, so I guess a little duplicity is okay.

If we are to take Joe literally, Succeed merely featured him and that was that; no further affiliation. I imagine this means that if you click on the specific "Mr. Fire" link to subscribe to Succeed – the link that Joe helpfully published on his blog – Mr. Fire will not receive a percentage or anything like that.

So now you know. Just thought I'd pass the information along, in the interests of being fair and balanced here.

By the way, Succeed magazine also recently featured a profile of David Schirmer's ex joint-venture partner, noted quantum physics expert and "Law Of Attraction guru" Bob Proctor. So even though he can't market Proctor's stuff any more, by court order, Schirmer apparently can still exploit Proctor's name to sell his magazine.

Warning: ACCESSories on the loose
As if Australia didn't have enough on its mind, what with David Schirmer still running around loose, there is also this creepy cultish thing called ACCESS Energy Transformation, which seems more determined than ever to dig its claws in Down Under. I wrote about ACCESS here last year, and then did a follow-up post a few days later.

ACCESS, according to a tale that seems to be strangely absent from the current official ACCESS sites (but can be found here and here), was founded in the early 1990s. It all started when a "being of light" (or, alternatively, "beings of light") called Novian used the late Russian faux-monk/Whirled-class charlatan Grigori Rasputin to channel an "energy transformation technique" to a Santa Barbara, California realtor named Gary Douglas. Gary decided to call the technique ACCESS, and it now has followers all over the world. But he seems to be concentrating on the US, Australia, and New Zealand.
And what's really scary, in my view, is that Gary and gang want to ACCESSorize the younger generation with their ACCESS kids' camps.

Yesterday I heard from an anonymous commenter responding to my second ACCESS blog post. This person was concerned about the fact that Gary and the ACCESS teachings seem to encourage their followers to have sex with anyone they want to, even if they're married. That's not the first time I've heard this, and if it is true, it doesn't seem that ACCESS would be the best organization to be running a kids' camp. I'm just saying...

My correspondent also provided a link to an ABC MediaWatch page detailing a segment last year on Australia's Channel 7, featuring Gary Douglas himself. "Dr." Douglas appeared on a segment of Channel 7's The Morning Show as a "behavioural expert" sharing his views about kids with autism and ADD. The folks on the program later ended up apologizing (or apologising, for you Aussies and Brits) on the air for featuring this loony-tunes "doctor." Here's the link.

As the Media Watch writer noted, "Dr." Douglas doesn't restrict his "energy transformation" techniques to humans; he also works with horses. He even put together a TV pilot, Conscious Horse, Conscious Rider, about his remarkable equine communication skills.
Conscious Horse Conscious Rider is a remarkable TV Pilot, starring horse medium Gary Douglas, and created at the request of horses everywhere.
So not only is Gary Douglas a doctor who's an expert on kids with autism and ADD; he's also a horse's... a horse whisperer. And the horses themselves requested that he make his TV show. Take that, all you neigh-sayers!

It's a mad, mad Whirled, and I'd love to stay and chat, Dear Ones... but I gotta get back to work for a while. And then I think I'm going to go out and talk to the horses. I'll let you know what they have to say.

PS ~ It's not that I think there is no validity to "horse whispering." I do. People such as Monty Roberts and Pat and Linda Parelli have achieved remarkable results with horses, and I am endlessly fascinated with their work. But they utilize knowledge about equine behavior and body language, not telepathy or the voices in their heads or whatever it is that Gary Douglas claims to use.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm an Australian, and the thought of this quack opening up a camp for kids in Australia (or anywhere else for that matter) mortifies me. Still... being an australian, I know how protective of our kids the Authorities are. There's no way his group will get a licence for that sort of activity considering his background (and comments). In Australia, to work with children, you must be in possession of something called "a blue card" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Card_(Australia)

When someone applies for a blue card, they go thru an intense screening process to determine their suitability to work with children. Contrary to belief, the granting of a blue card is a very rare thing. It only takes one suspicious comment or prior activity and the panel will automatically decline the application - it's that strict. The blue card was introduced (to the best of my memory) several years ago after reports that pedophiles could easily get access to jobs in schools and / or access to children; and of course, typical Australians were horrified by this idea. So the blue card came in.
So... I can safely assume this access group are going to have their hands full trying to get a permit to operate here.
As for the media watch program, well... these things happen all the time. Channel 7 would have been left with a lot of egg on their face, but for the most part, viewers would have just been left scratching their heads and wondering what on earth that fruitcake was on about. He looked like he was on something, that's for sure - or maybe he was up all night conversing with the horsies.

On the subject of schirmer, I'm not at all surprised he's being isolated from the schoolyard group. These people band together, but the moment the going gets rough, they distance themselves from the bad apples (despite being no better than schirmer themselves - and I'm sure that subsequent scandals will arise from schirmer's former friends at some point). I'm quite enjoying sitting back and watching their get-rich-quick scheme aaaall fall apart.

God I love this site.

:)

Anonymous said...

OMG I thought it was really weird Schirmer and Vitale having an association and Schirmer seemed to be milking it for all it was worth too. After all it is Joe who got into the Opus and not him so Joe had all the contacts and good info he could use. God the guy is a weazel. Whats going on down under?

Anonymous said...

Dear God NOOOOOO......

Abalanceofhope it seems that the Schirmers have operated kids camps before so he may or he may not have a license http://www.youthdestiny.com/ydc08_student_application_form.pdf.

No doubt you have checked that they have the appropriate blue card because our children need protecting. The kids in the photo on that site appear very young to me.

I too find it absolutely appalling that these people are permitted to operate a kids camp given all the media scrutiny and accusations and court appearances that they are getting this year. I for one would be objecting to such a license being given to them.

As for Joe Vitale dissassociating with him, well it was only a matter of time wasn't it. I'm sure Joe can't afford to have people like this guy hanging off him and really of what benefit is he to Joe?

Anonymous said...

Yes, Australia really does seem to attract the quacks, fruitcakes and nuts. It makes ME wonder what's going on down under too. I don't want my home country to be known as 'the place where THOSE scammer people from the secret comes from'. Yeesh.

Anonymous said...

Funny watching these so called "experts" of the mind diss each other all over the place. What wankers.

Anonymous said...

Was the Richard Branson crap in Succeed Magazine an article that they paid for because the pictures looked absolutely crap inside the mag. I doubt Branson would want to be associated with such a terrible article image like that if only he knew and I wonder if he really knew at all that he was on the cover or just who he was associated with being on the cover.

You can buy articles to put in a magazine and I reckon that is what they did for this one. I am thinking that it was a desparate attempt to revive the magazine and get some sales since their codirector and publisher quit earlier this year or around that time. They also had a change of printer late last year and god knows what for but I think its easy enough to guess. Only guessing and it's my opinion but I'd like to know if I'm wrong.

Anonymous said...

Isn't what Schirmer doing in defiance of the court order?

I would not put it past the guy to totally ignore any court order. I cant stand the guy and I like him even less every time I hear what he is up to. Smartarsing will get him in gaol.

Anonymous said...

Probably the most obvious thing you notice about anything to do with David Schirmer is that everu title, every book, every magazine, every workshop that ever comes out of that place and even his lackies are given ridiculously FAT EGO titles like Senior Account Managers, Global Sales Reps, National Sales Reps all as big as Ben Hur when it all has such a pissy profile. Doesn't that set alarm bells ringing immediately?

Anonymous said...

I went back to read your original blog on Access. This portion is shocking:

"The participants of the class are often surprised to realize that they not only have no thoughts in their heads, they can't easily form any. From that place of no thought, they can create from infinite possibility. And that is the aim of ACCESS: to give you the freedom and the awareness AND THE TOOLS to be the infinite you."

How wrong is this?

I'll take the advice of a wise man I knew who said,regarding esoteric matters,"Take up the attitude of a scientific student, not of the believer. You must bring to bear a bright intellect, a keen mind, an eager intellect, a thoughtful and critical reason."

Good advice for anyone about almost anything I think.

Anonymous said...

Re:
I went back to read your original blog on Access. This portion is shocking:

"The participants of the class are often surprised to realize that they not only have no thoughts in their heads, they can't easily form any....”


The concept is basically a “revised” perspectives expressed from the Analects of Confucius, Buhda, Zen, Lao Tzu, Chuang Tzu, Hillel, Dan Millman, Eckhar Tolle etc. It entails that you don’t put too much energy on what makes you worry about the past and future. The original concept asks one to control his/her attention and instead of the mind. For me, it is a simple stress management technique which enables you to reduce the worry from not focusing of the past and the future. So Fine. The Access way is the revised version to make it look like as unique. Why? My guess is as good as yours – “$”
The Access teaching tells you that your thoughts, feelings and emotions does not belong to you and are just mostly projections from other people and 1% are creations by oneself. Your thoughts has a domino effect on your feelings and emotions. The thoughts stay habitually in your mind and, ignited by too focus and emotions, will limit you in receiving blessings in life (this they call “easy, joy and glory”). You can choose whatever there is to offer by demanding whatever that choice is and let it just stay there in your mind within in 10 seconds.
So how? Access believes that if you say their Houdini acrobat of words, these thoughts go away and your attention to past and future worries go away. The words do not make any sense and according to them it is designed to override your mind. There are plenty of acrobatic language-processing’s that you cannot even remember any of them that you need to see a practitioner/facilitator, attend classes by a licensed facilitator, or attend exclusive advance workshops of Gary and Dain. Another way is to have your “Bars” run. It is like a therapy session where an Accessory touches 32 points in your head and that will wipe out any thoughts and limitations in your life. Regardless which approach you go – it will cost you from a range of $150 to $900 – USD, AUD, NZD. It is not that simple and it is costly. Honestly, I would prefer use the original concepts offered by the perspectives of people I mentioned earlier.
Does it work? The followers say they do. Regardless, they know that they don’t have to focus on the past and the future. That by in itself is ok – and it works to a certain extent. The thing is when you first sit for a class in Access, they don’t go through the basic stuff of training. You don’t get any “Ahhhh...so that must be it!” or you don’t get that light bulb above your head to realize something or get wisdom. They give you paradoxes which they let you figure out yourself. The facilitator only sits there and reads the materials given by Gary. It is only when one has questions that these facilitators answer your questions.
Access people don’t believe in Linearity, Form and Structure. The Foundation and Advance classes changes every time. The poor newbie to Access would end up not going through the basic stuff. The basic concepts are mostly found in their unprofessionally written books. And you would guess it right – you will need to spend again! The books offer paradoxical (slightly) concepts anyway.
When an accessory would convince a prospective follower to attend the classes, they guarantee the changes in your life. They will also tell you that the change will happen even if you fall asleep in class. But when one finally sits in the class and ask them about this guarantee – they will “arrogantly” tell you that you can walk out of the door and go back to your pathetic life.
They always say that your life transformation will be even greater if you attend more and more of their classes. The reason? “Oh hi! Would like to attend again the access classes – the materials changed!” How would you interpret that? “Oh I need more money!”
After so many dollars and after getting tired dealing with “Tupperware” Access people, you end up knowing that the concepts were just copied from different books - revised to make it look like originally Access.
Unfortunately, in Access they don’t believe in the Good and Bad....Right and Wrong. They don’t use words like sorry and forgive me as that puts a limitation on you for making yourself wrong. They won’t give any significance to this blog, the media watch – basically they don’t FEAR anything. If they do such (i.e. give it significance)– the issue will just be magnified. I guess the best thing really is for media to find this blog and realize that this is another scientology group in the making.
What bothers me really about the Access and the followers is that even though they say the don’t operate from judgement, thoughts, feelings and emotions – you can feel a fakeness in their joy most especially when they start getting mad at you and tell you how pathetic your life is!
On the matter of sex, you will be surprised how Dain have sex with women and they end up as clients and/or long time followers. When these women wanted more than sex from Dain, he passes them on to Gary for consultation (for a fee of course). Why? Access does not believe in relationships. Note – most of the followers are divorcees and single persons.
A couple close to the inner clout of Access teaches about relationships. Sit in their class and you will find out that cheating is allowed so you could honor yourself.
Well that is really the EXCESS of ACCESS.

Cosmic Connie said...

Hey, everyone, thank you for all of the comments. I didn't mean to run out just when the conversation was getting really interesting. I have a couple of work deadlines that have been taking up most of my time for the past couple of days. But there are some great comments here... so carry on, and I'll jump back in when I have a spare moment. Thanks again!

Anonymous said...

David really seeems to like that picture "Someone"

http://www.myabundantlifeseminar.com/

Cosmic Connie said...

O.K., I have a few minutes to spare so I'll try to catch up on comments here...

Abalance, thank you for the info and insights about the Aussie authorities and the policies about kids.

I want to make it clear that I am not insinuating that either David and Lorna Schirmer *or* the ACCESS folks are pedophiles (although David's brother Ian has run into a bit of trouble in that area -- which is a matter of public record).

Nevertheless, ACCESS does not seem to be a source of the kind of values most people would want to pass on to the next generation. If we're to believe the info in some of the ACCESS material, as well as reports from those who have seen ACCESS up close and way too personal, one of the tenets of ACCESS is that relationships are worthless. Further, promiscuity...oops, I mean sexual experimentation...is apparently encouraged among adults (hopefully they draw the line there, but I have no way of knowing).

And in general, ACCESS' apparent scorn for thinking and intellect -- so typical of many New-Wage (or religious) cults -- should be a HUGE red flag.

The point is that the ACCESS lifestyle/mindset just doesn't seem to be something most parents would want their kids to embrace.

As for the youth camp that the Schirmers are involved in, it's my hope that, especially in light of the above-mentioned trouble with one of David's brothers, the authorities would be keeping a close watch.

In regard to the idea that Joe Vitale is dissociating himself from Schirmer, my post was a humorous exaggeration. The "dissociation" is not anywhere near as blatant as the actions of Bob Proctor, who recently took Schirmer to court (and won a judgment against him) over Schirmer's unauthorized use of Proctor's material.

In general, there's sort of a balancing act involved in the world of New-Wage joint ventures. As long as the schoolyard buddies find even a marginal association to be beneficial they will take full advantage of it, but if cornered, or called on their association with a known scalawag (I love that word!), they can always claim ignorance.

Cosmic Connie said...

Kevin, David Schirmer is still milking his tenuous Joe Vitale connection for all it's worth; he's just sent out an email crowing about the "amazing and touching story" of "Dr." Joe Vitale in the new issue of "Succeed" Magazine.

As I noted in a previous blog post, it's really too bad Schirmer did not get into "The Opus," since the moviemercial is framed around the story of a violinist, and Schirmer plays the violin. (Or fiddles about, as it were... :-))

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 8:03 AM: Thanks for your comment... and see my comment above, to Abalance.

Cosmic Connie said...

Abalance (re your 8:25 PM comment): Australia has a looooooooooong way to go before it could get a reputation for breeding as many New-Wage whack jobs as America. After all, ACCESS began in America. And even though "The Secret" was created by Australians, it mostly features American (and some Canadian) hucksters...oops, I mean "teachers."

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 9:54: For the most part, those wankers "support" each other, at least in public, as long as there's something in it for them.

Cosmic Connie said...

Sharon said...
"Was the Richard Branson crap in Succeed Magazine an article that they paid for because the pictures looked absolutely crap inside the mag."

Sharon, I have no idea about the origins of the Branson article, but I think I see what you mean about the quality of the photos -- at least if the photos accompanying the online version of the article are any indication.

Here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/5xkyjb

That pic of Branson with Jim Mooney and Steve Burch looks as if it is a scan of a printout from an inkjet printer that needs a cartridge change or a print-head cleaning.

There's no indication in the article that Branson actually sat down for an exclusive interview with Succeed, so I'm thinking there could be something to your suggestion about it being a purchased piece.

If that is the case, it's very possible that Branson has no idea that he was profiled by Succeed Magazine. And he probably doesn't know David Schirmer from Adam. At any rate, Joe Vitale's rationale, when someone recently commented on his blog about his own Schirmer association (such as it is), was to say that if Succeed Magazine is good enough for Richard Branson, it's good enough for Joe.

The big difference there, as I see it, is that Branson is a world-famous billionaire and has been the subject of lots of media attention for many years now. He seems to be pretty used to it and apparently doesn't make a big deal about it every time someone writes a few words about him. He probably doesn't even KNOW about lots of the stuff that is published about him; he has too many other things to do. And I'm thinking he probably isn't affected much one way or the other when someone like David Schirmer tries to grab onto his coattails to sell a magazine.

So whether Succeed is "good enough" for Branson is probably a moot point.

By the way, when Googling Branson, I came up with a link to an interesting 2004 Washington Post article about egotistical billionaires:
http://tinyurl.com/7yn9u

Now, the quality of the photos and text in the Joe Vitale issue (at least from what I've seen so far) indicate some improved production values for Succeed Magazine. But I am sure this just raises more questions among the people to whom Schirmer reportedly owes money. After all, publishing a glossy rag ain't cheap, in the US or in Australia. Even with newer digital technologies it's not cheap. So one wonders where Schirmer continues to get the money for such ventures.

Well, I guess that's not a question for me to answer; that's one for the appropriate Aussie authorities.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 1:14 AM: Regarding whether or not Schirmer's exploitation of Bob Proctor in Succeed Magazine is a defiance of court orders, I don't know. It could be that the Succeed stuff is completely separate and not covered in the court orders, in which case it must annoy Proctor. On the other hand, if he's realizing any benefit at all from the exposure, it is possible that it's not that annoying to him after all.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 1:32 AM: It does seem that the people who do much of Schirmer's communicating for him these days have some pretty grandiose titles. But hey, if his entire organization is based on pretense, as many have claimed, then the made-up titles just go with the territory.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anonymous 1:33 AM wrote:

"I'll take the advice of a wise man I knew who said,regarding esoteric matters,'Take up the attitude of a scientific student, not of the believer. You must bring to bear a bright intellect, a keen mind, an eager intellect, a thoughtful and critical reason.'"

Good advice, indeed. What's so insidious is that so many of the New-Wage hustledorks and their followers claim to be "skeptics."

Uh-huh.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anony2:
Thank you for the rather unsettling insights and observations about ACCESS. You sound like someone who really knows what you're talking about.

Naturally, I'd be willing to hear from "the other side," but I have a feeling that Anony2 is right; ACCESSories wouldn't feel that a blog like this is worth their time.

Cosmic Connie said...

OMT... in regard to to this statement:

"The participants of the class are often surprised to realize that they not only have no thoughts in their heads, they can't easily form any. From that place of no thought, they can create from infinite possibility. And that is the aim of ACCESS: to give you the freedom and the awareness AND THE TOOLS to be the infinite you."

Like, wow, man. It sounds like they're smoking some reeeeeeally good stuff. Actually that state of no-thought sounds a little bit like the "zero state" Joe V wrote about in "Zero Limits" -- it has a certain poetic appeal and mystical cachet, perhaps, but, at best, seems of dubious practical value.

At worst, it can leave one open for all sorts of disasters. But maybe that's just my limited mind working overtime.

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 12:21 AM: LOL, Schirmer does like that "Mickey Mouse" picture, doesn't he?

Anonymous said...

I think it's hilarious how so many people are finally saying what they really think about these people and people are taking notice. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander right so if these people are making money out of saying they are Dr's and Teachers and Gurus and Experts then my title is Billionaire Brain Buster Bruce which means sh-t just like theirs do.

These people will spend their entire lives searching for the God status because its the only thing that satisfies them. They wouldn't have a clue how to do something so simple and valuable as go fishing with their kids. Instead they think relationship building is screwing with peoples minds, that gives them a high.

Cosmic Connie said...

Thanks for your comments, Anon.

Going fishing with their kids...hmmm. An ACCESS parent would probably let the kid fend for him/herself, saying that it's the only way for the kid to "create from a place of infinite possiblities" (even if those possibilities included drowning or being swallowed by a shark). I'm not sure if Schirmer is the type to take *his* kids fishing, but something tells me he's not exactly up for a Father of the Year award.

Anonymous said...

Re:

"Take up the attitude of a scientific student, not of the believer. You must bring to bear a bright intellect, a keen mind, an eager intellect, a thoughtful and critical reason."

Hi did you get this from A Besant? Quite true those words. A scientist from Melbourne has discovered esotoric knowledge through his own self discovery but warns that "adopting beliefs you choose not to think by yourself and choose to keep your intellect dormant." What matters most is what you can understand yourself.

The flock of followers of Access all express the change they want in their lives. The inner cicle of Access promotes a silent FEAR - that if you don't do more of ACCESS workshops you wont get the full benefits of the change they offer. Don't ask me how it is silent - but you can feel it. Gary would often say if you don't want to belong to us anymore - Na..na...na..na (kid expression). It's funny NOT.

Silent or not, the promotion of fear is there because it is their method to maintain and control a flock of Access followers. Thus - being cultish. This certainly sobottages one's intellect especially if the individual buys everything there is to belive from ACCESS.

RevRon's Rants said...

Just saw the self (and erroneously) named Buddha of the Internet's latest blog entry... about IT. I think he left a couple of letters off, however.

Says his hands are shaking.

No big deal... he said the same thing about every MLM scheme he was ever hired to hawk, at least for the 15 years I've known him. And there's obviously a never-ending stream of gullible folks who are ready to swallow anything he says. He and Schirmer belong together.

Sigh...

Cosmic Connie said...

Anony2: Thanks for the additional insights on ACCESS. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is the followers "believe," since ACCESS is supposedly ever-changing, but it does seem clear that they're pretty much a loony cult. I do think it interesting that Gary and company seem so focused on growing in Australia. I wonder if maybe they think they can get away with more of their crap there than they could in the US -- not so much with the kids' stuff but with adult events. At any rate, they don't seem to have gotten much attention in the US so far.

Cosmic Connie said...

Ron... re Mr. Fire's IT...

Maybe he is talking about Information Technology. :-)

I know what you mean about the 'my hands are shaking' thing, though.

Anonymous said...

Hi Aony2

That statement and oh so many others was made by Dr Thurman Fleet of San Antonio, Texas who himself wrote tirelessly for over 50 years on esoteric matters. His work is a unification of science and theology.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Hello Connie,

Thought you might me be interested viewing video clips from Access:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PotencyProductions

According to them just by listening to the the facilitators one could experience change. What are you thoughts?



Totally strange...

Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 11:36 AM: That's pretty bizarre stuff, but it seems to be SOP for ACCESS.

Anonymous said...

just wanted to say that Access is destroying my marriage here in the US. My wife went to a single class, came home and asked for an "open marriage" and then after two weeks when I said I didn't want that for us and our multi-decade long marriage she said too bad and started an affair.

I personally believe Access is extremely dangerous. Perhaps more so than Scientology. Since it seems to be ruining my life and affecting my children, I would love to expose it for what it really is: an extremely dangerous cult.

Unknown said...

Hi Connie ~

Ok, I recently heard about access and stumbled upon your blog. Would you be willing to share how much $ in contributions you have made from this one simple page? Just curious. Now if it has been a significant amount, then would it be fair to ask you the following: Is being willing to receive is a good thing? I have explored many things in my 46 years, and although I don't necessary buy into alot of it, what I do know is becoming more conscious is something I truly desire. Unconscious hasn't worked well so far. The woman who introduced me to this work spent about 3 weeks opening me up to greater possibilities in my life. She never charged me a dime, and she also gives a thumbs down to the ridiculous aspects of the the new age movement for many reasons. Again, I have been there and done that with just about everything you can imagine. She never charged me a dime, but the experience changed my life for the better in so many ways. I feel fantastic for the first time in ages and it's very real. Are you a member of the diffi-cult? Unwilling to open up to receive good things that come your way? Or is your willingness to receive from any modality besides your own religion of what you "believe" is possible nothing more than your own self imposed limitation? Nothing wrong with that of course, but my personal taste allows for unlimited possibilities in every level of my experience. I may or may not choose access as a vehicle for this, but either way, I will already never be the same, and for me that's fantastic news! I still have the sensibility to integrate what is useful and throw away the rest. I will continue to explore access until I come up against a valid reason not to. So coming full circle, does your paypal donation button indicate that your ability to receive is desirable? : ) If so, then perhaps you have figured out already on your own the main message of access..

Cosmic Connie said...

Thanks for your comment, Mobi -- logical fallacies, closed-ended questions, and all.

From my perspective, there's a difference between being open to receiving good things -- and I am open to that -- and being gullible to anything a couple of two-bit sex-and-money cult leaders (that would be Gary Douglas and Dain Heer) have to say.

You say you have realized some pleasing results that you credit to Access. Since you asked me a personal question about my finances I'll ask you one: Is it Access that changed your life, or is it attraction to the woman who spent all that time "Accessorizing" you?

Perhaps that is an unfair question. Perhaps sexual attraction has nothing to do with it. If so, I apologize. However, I do think this is a case where you have to consider the source, and where it pays to look closely at the messenger as well as the message. After all, Gary Douglas claims to have gotten his "information" about Access through the late Russian "holy" man Rasputin, working with a group of disembodied beings called "Novian." Or maybe you don't know that, if you just recently heard of Access; they keep the Rasputin connection kind of hush-hush these days.

I haven't made a great deal of money in donations to my blog, but in the interests of fairness and accuracy I'll say that it is more than "one simple page." I've been at this for four-and-a-half years and there are now hundreds of pages on Whirled Musings. It's not just about Access, either.

But back to Access. Look around my blog; follow the "Access" tags, and you'll read of other people's experiences with Access. And by the way, if you ever hear Gary Douglas tell a story of a Texas heiress (that would be Curry Glassell) who was "saved" by Access, or who learned to deal with life in a better way because of Access... well, you'd better take that one with a HUGE grain of salt.