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Across the Universe with Cosmic Connie, aka Connie L. Schmidt...or maybe just through the dung-filled streets and murky swamps of pop culture -- more specifically, the New-Age/New-Wage crowd, pop spirituality & religion, pop psychology, self(ish)-help, business babble, media silliness, & related (or occasionally unrelated) matters of consequence. Hope you're wearing boots. (By the way, the "Cosmic" bit in my moniker is IRONIC.)

Thursday, February 05, 2009

The Mini-Madoff of Melbourne?

I'm the only Aussie on The Secret DVD, and probably the most controversial, most fun loving, most challenging and direct, maybe the richest?

~ David Schirmer's self-description on his Twitter page

It's been a while since I blogged about Australian Secret star David Schirmer, The Blunder from Down Under...or perhaps we should give him a new nickname for the new year. How about the Mini-Madoff of Melbourne? Like the infamous Bernie M., David Schirmer allegedly "made off" with large amounts of other people's money, as documented in numerous segments of the Aussie tabloid TV program, A Current Affair. Thus far, of course, David's reported misdeeds have been on a considerably smaller scale than those of Bernie Madoff – as have the transgressions of the "Mini-Madoffs" in the US – and his shenanigans have been largely confined to Australia. Still, the comparison seems apt. Besides, I rather like the alliteration.

From what I can see, however, Melbourne's Mini-M continues to deny any real wrongdoing – it seems the most he'll ever admit to is having made some mistakes in the past ("And who hasn't made mistakes?" is the implied question) – and he just keeps on keeping on. If you don't care, maybe you should, because he is still has his eyes on America. More on that in a moment.

He continues to trade on his association with the most famous New-Wage moviemercial of our times, The Secret, branding himself as "The 'Car Park' Guy," due to his spiel on the DVD about using the Law Of Attraction to attract prime parking spaces. As he said in the movie:

"People are amazed how I line up car parks. And I've done this right from when I first understood the secret. I would visualise a car space exactly where I wanted it and 95% of the time it would be there for me and I'd just pull straight in. Five percent of the time I'd have to wait just a minute or two and the person would pull out and I'd pull in. So I do that all the time."

Of course, he could just as easily brand himself as "The 'Checks In The Mail' Guy In The Secret":

"When I first understood the secret, I was getting bills. Every day I would get a bunch of bills in the mail and I thought, This is, how do I turn this around? The law of attraction states that what you focus on you will get. So I got a bank statement and I whited out the total and I put a new total in there. I put exactly how much I wanted to see in the bank. I thought, what if I just visualise cheques coming in the mail, so I just visualised a bunch of cheques coming in the mail. Within just one month, things started to change. And it's just amazing, today I just get cheques in the mail. I get a fewbills, but I get more cheques than bills."

The above two quotations were taken from a PDF that includes a transcript of the original DVD of The Secret (yes, this is the version with Esther Hicks and her imaginary pal Abe).

I know that some of this stuff is old news, but that's for the benefit of those who have only recently joined the party here and don't have all of the background information. The rest of you can feel free to skip over the stuff you already know.

The webmaster for David's The Secret Revealed web site seems to have worked overtime on search engine optimization, or at least I guess that's what it is (I'm kind of a Web marketing 'tard). Just click on the "Site Map" link on the home page and you'll see what I mean. There are more than 70 links, each one leading to a long list of yet more links, inclusive of all of the New-Wage gurus and concepts covered in The Secret, and then some. Thus, someone who is looking for, say, information on Joe Vitale might very well be led to David Schirmer's site. But I suppose that's pretty much in keeping with the general practices in the New-Wage industry, which is one large mutual masturb...er..big party, where the hustlers use each other's names all the time to promote their own stuff.

Even as he exploits his Secret connection, David continues to try to set himself apart from other Secret stars and the rest of the New-Wage scene – not just by describing himself in superlatives, as in that Twitter quotation above, but also by branding himself as a Bible-believing, saved-by-Jesus Christian, as snarkily reported here previously. (Some people are still trying to figure out the significance of the kitten pictures on that post I linked to. So far no one has guessed correctly.)

For some time now, David's purported Christianity has been finding its expression through his ongoing involvement in a prosperity-oriented church called Rhema Melbourne (formerly Word Family Church), an institution that seems to be rooted in the belief that God wants "His" people to be prosperous, and that "He" also wants them to fork over as much money as possible to the church that nurtures this holy sense of entitlement.

A friend of mine refers to churches like this as The Church of the Deluded, and it seems appropriate here. Either Rhema Melbourne doesn't know about Schirmer's bad press, or they don't care, or they recognize a good hustler...er...fundraiser... when they see one, and they figure he can help fill the collection plates. Of course, there's always the possibility that the church is simply practicing Christian forgiveness, as Our Lord would wish. On the other hand, maybe the Aussie authorities would be interested in the dealings of the Rhema Melbourne Church. That's not up to me to decide.

In any case, David Schirmer currently seems to be one of his church's rock stars, and they have him teaching a series of prosperity classes to the faithful. The promo page on Rhema's web site says, "Your [sic] would normally have to pay thousands to hear David share his business insights and secrets … you get to enjoy monthly seminars with him for free." In one of the upcoming classes, he will talk about the importance of tithing. "Learn why every business person should tithe and how to multiply your profits through offerings," says the blurb for his Purpose of Prosperity class, scheduled for February 22.

While I'm sure his church is just tickled pink about that, I have a feeling that some of this is not setting too well with the folks to whom he still allegedly owes all of that money. I remember hearing David promise A Current Affair's Ben Fordham that he would have all of the money paid back to his earlier investors by Christmas – of 2007. From what I have heard, he has yet to keep that promise. As an anonymous correspondent put it recently, "Where the hell is everyone's money that he owes them, in the bloody church coffers now? Won’t that make people happy. David Schirmer owes so many people so much money it is not funny and he talks about this sort of stuff. You’ve got to give it to him, the guy has gall."

David and his lovely wife Lorna are also still involved with a motivational project for youngsters, Youth Destiny Camp, which I first mentioned here last year. Among other things, he recently taught a group of young kids how to create a company and turn $500 into $500,000 in 90 days. "God help the poor little suckers when he has not even done that himself!" someone commented to me recently. Word has it that most of the kids who went to the Schirmers' Youth Camp last year did not return this year (perhaps they were so successful they didn't need to), and there was only a fraction of last year's turnout, some of whom were family. In any case, David has put a joyful spin on it as usual:

It is absolutely amazing to watch the young adults (12-19) change over the 5 days. Many come very shy and reserved and not really knowing what to expect; they leave full of confidence with a Vision Board in their hand and a new destiny. The 5-day YDC is often the best time in their lives.

And here's a link to a very short video showing some of the fun and games at the 2009 YDC. By the way, the cost per kiddo is $995 in Aussie dollars, which is about $650 in US dollars.

In addition to all of the above, David continues to promote himself as a stock market expert and wealth advisor, and is also still involved in business and success mentoring, selling products such as his Wealth Building 101 Course, another item I have mentioned here before. This is the course where he teaches business owners how to protect their assets against "predator-plaintiffs and their attorneys." (His main wealth tip: Don't own anything in your name.) I'll give him this: He does have experience with plaintiffs and their attorneys, having been sued numerous times himself.

No doubt David has faced a few disappointments, in addition to that split-up with Bob Proctor last year (speaking of lawsuits). For one thing, he doesn't seem to be on the A-list for the scads of New-Wage moviemercials that have come out since The Secret (e.g., The Opus, The Compass, The Rumpus, The Leap, The Creep, Awakeners, that dumb movie where people keep tapping on themselves, or any of a number of Beyond-The-Secret type offerings). Sadder still, he isn't included in the latest incarnation of the great hustledork affiliate scheme, The Masters Gathering. I get the feeling that he's still pretty much persona non grata among the stars and superstars of the New-Wage industry.

Disappointments aside, he still seems to be having a barrel of fun online. Even if the New-Wage superstars will have little to do with him, there are hundreds upon hundreds of naive superstar-wannabes and groupies, some of whom have money to blow. And even if they don't have money, they are possessed of a certain naivete and willingness to glom onto anyone who can talk a good game, particularly if that person was in...gasp!...The Secret. Perhaps they think that since this charming guy with the Aussie accent and the twinkle in his eye has made himself more accessible than some of the other Secret stars, he might be able to get them into The Club. They don't seem to be aware that Schirmer himself can't really get into The Club, at least not into the V.I.P. room.

In any case, he has jumped into social media big time. He's been on Facebook and Myspace for quite some time now, but these days he is also having a fine old time on Twitter as well. To begin with, it's yet another forum for him to share insights about the stock market. Consider this bit of timeless wisdom:

Do you know why the stock market is called an "Exchange"? Because it is where the ignorant exchange their money for experience!!

He said a mouthful, perhaps without realizing it. One gets the feeling that he is banking on a never-ending flow of "the ignorant" to his workshops and web sites. On a later Tweet, he wrote a variation of the same thought:

When person with money meets person with experience; Person with money will get the experience and person with experience will get the money.
Yep, I'd say that about sums it up. Let this be a warning to any inexperienced but moneyed souls who come in contact with David Schirmer. The "experience" you receive in exchange for giving him your money may not be quite what you had in mind.

He has also been Tweeting in vaguely flirtatious ways with various ladies about topics such as sex and romance and passion for one's vision; some are Tweeting coquettishly right back, as if they don't know, or simply don't care, about the negative press he's received (see that bit above, about The Club). And he's merrily exchanging Tweets with other spruikers (I had to throw a fine Aussie slang term in here somewhere), such as online entrepreneur Benjamin Bressington, whose Twitter handle is mongrelstyle. Recently David wrote:

Grown 67 followers since Tuesday evening ... is that OK?

Benjamin replied:

is that all.... do those people understand you [sic] skills.

Benjamin went on to Tweet sweetly to David about how he, Benjamin, should have followed David's previous stock market prediction reports instead of doubting, but he has now learned his lesson and is looking forward to reading David's 2009 predictions. And in case you're curious, here's another link to the dynamic Benjamin, looking for all the world like actor Jason Alexander, except younger and with more hair.

Well, something must be working in Benjamin's life, because it looks as if he is shopping for a Rolls-Royce. He recently wrote:

I sat in a New Rolls Royce Coupe today, it is amazing almost made me cry it is an amazing car the roof has stars that light up AWESOME.

Later David Tweeted:

@mongelstyle [sic] CONGRATULATIONS ... hear you put your order in for your new Rolls Royce. Can't wait for a ride ... in the back seat!

Those of you who were thinking, "How about in the trunk?" should just stop that kind of thinking right now. I will not tolerate violence on this blog. My first thought was that if Benjamin's Rolls deal falls through, maybe Mr. Fire will let David ride in his Rolls for five thousand US dollars – or $7,500.00, if David wants to be the sole "Phantom rider."

David may not have a Rolls of his own yet, but he still seems to be doing all right, car-wise; he's driving a BMW M5 (base price of current models is around $185,00 USD). Although he has a way to go before he has as many cars as Mr. Fire, he does seem to be trying to play in that league, or trying to get into The Club, as it were. Kissing-up on Twitter is one of his strategies, evidenced by a couple of comments he wrote in response to Tweets regarding Joe's recent $12,500 Awakened Millionaire Weekend, which took place in Austin on January 23-25 (yes, it fell during Cosmic Connie Day). In response to one of Joe's Tweets about the event, David wrote:

@mrfire Well done Joe! What this about a bad economy in the US? Keep changing the world.

Later David "re-Tweeted" one of Joe's Tweets:

RT: @mrfire: Offered $100,000 Platinum Package at end of Awakened Millionaire Training, people rushed to sign up. An inspired, awakened idea.

Alas, Joe has yet to publicly acknowledge David's Twittery overtures. Maybe it is simply because he never saw them. Still, he doesn't hesitate to cite Schirmer's now-failed Succeed Magazine in his promo material. This blurb is currently on the home page of his main website, mrfire.com:

According to Succeed Magazine, Dr. Joe Vitale is one of the five top marketing specialists in the world today and is known to his readers, customers, and seminar attendees as the world's first hypnotic writer.

Though Succeed seems to be on hiatus indefinitely, there is apparently another magazine in the works at Schirmerville:

We are looking for successful people with an inspirational story for the global launch of our magazine. huge exposure. Please Retweet.

I don't know yet whether this is a whole new publication (perhaps in the Chicken-Soup-type inspirational genre) or just another incarnation of Succeed, created to appease the poor saps who paid the hefty price for subscriptions. Either way, I'm sure the world is waiting breathlessly for yet another slick New-Wage rag.

Judging from another recent Tweet, David is also considering either buying or renting a private jet, or at least trying to make people think he is rich enough to consider it:

@getsmartwithjohn Of course I can afford it ... God has blessed me with incredible abundance. I prefer the new Gulfstream 650.

Though I can't find the comment to which that Tweet was apparently a response, and the @getsmartwithjohn Twitter page doesn't seem to exist, there is an @getsmartwithjon Twitter page, as well as a "Get Smart With John" web site at http://www.getsmartwithjohn.com/. The man behind those sites is Aussie John Armitage-Smart. A bit of Googling revealed that among other things, John is a distributor for Neways International, a company that has its own "interesting" history. I'm guessing this is the same John Smart that the aforementioned Benjamin Bressington mentioned in a January 22 Tweet:

Just sitting in david schirmer's office with john smart in melbourne, and it is actually a nice day in melbourne

Here's a picture of John Smart (and I do believe that is Benjamin B in the background).

Twitter seems to be a whole new world for David Schirmer, an over-the-rainbow realm where all of his old troubles have melted like lemon drops. His self-description on his Twitter profile – which I quoted above, but it's so good I'll give it to you again – shows that his gift for spin is still alive and well:

I'm the only Aussie on The Secret DVD, and probably the most controversial, most fun loving, most challenging and direct, maybe the richest?

Uh-huh. The "most controversial" part is true, at least, if by that he means "most sued." "Fun loving?" Well, let's not get into that; let's just say the rumors have been flying for some time now. "Challenging and direct?" Okay, I'll give him that; I bet he has challenged every legal action that's ever been taken against him, and he also seems to be challenging the Aussie authorities to "catch me if you can." And "the richest?" Not to belabor the point, but if he really is the richest, you think he'd have some money left over, after spending it on necessities such as expensive cars and private jets, to pay back at least some of those people...

Now, I'm just speculating here, but to me David Schirmer's boasts seem less like an accurate reflection of his life, and more like a lonely teenage boy bragging to his friends about the hot date he had last Saturday night, when in reality his "date" consisted of his right hand and a pilfered copy of Dad's Playboy magazine (or an unsupervised surfing session on the Internet). The difference is that the teenage boy isn't bilking people out of their life savings.

As for being the only Aussie on The Secret, even that is arguable, of course, if you include creator and producer Rhonda Byrne, whose personal story is told in the movie and the book. It turns out that several other Aussies were originally interviewed as well, but didn't make the final cut. (I often wonder if Rhonda has since had any regrets about the Aussie who was chosen.) One of the originally interviewed Aussies is Sydney's Lynda Dyer, who, as it happens, did make the aforementioned Masters Gathering.

Aussie or not, David Schirmer obviously wants to share his gifts with the world. Canada may be the first baby step; the Schirmers already have two sons in Canada. With two of the spawn in the Great White North, could the parents be far behind? O Canada, don't say you've not been warned! (Hmmm...I feel a song coming on...)

The US needs to be on the alert as well. David recently Tweeted to online entrepreneur Ali Brown, owner of "a multimillion dollar company devoted to empowering women around the world with the tools to live the freedom-based lives of their dreams":

@alibrownla Hi Ali, Where will you be Feb 23-Mar 10? I'll be in the States and would love to catch up.

I imagine he would love to "catch up" to Ali, for several reasons, but I am pretty sure she's too smart for that. Nonetheless, David seems to be headed our way, as indicated by a recent Tweet:

Had a great meeting with John & Ben regarding our launch in the States ... Be there soon!!

I'm guessing that the "Ben" he mentioned is not Ben Fordham of A Current Affair. More than likely it's Ben "I sat in a Rolls!" Bressington. In fact I could just about guarantee that's the Ben he's talking about, as indicated by this entry on Ben's blog, "Catalst [sic] For Transformation," and on his Twitter page:

David Schirmer has told me the train is leaving on his new business, I am excited...I am on the train.

As for who John is, I'm guessing it's the aforementioned John Armitage-Smart. One wag suggested that "John Arguably-Smart" would be a more appropriate name, seeing as how the guy is poised to launch a new business with David Schirmer.

You almost have to feel sorry for Ben and John, but then again, they're just as capable as anyone else of Googling, or of researching just by asking around. After all, it seems that David Schirmer has a long history of convincing people that he has more than he actually has. Many have wound up disillusioned or worse, and some have gone public. (Does the name "Warren Henningsen" ring a bell? Warren was once David's greatest champion, even "protecting" him from a TV reporter when David took refuge in a public restroom. But finally even Warren had enough.)

Perhaps David is simply practicing that "act as if" routine that so many Law Of Attraction fans embrace, talking his situation up as if he's already received whatever it is he wants, even though he can't even afford the deposit. Over the years he has apparently been successful in convincing numerous other folks to buy into his schemes, and that's what keeps him going till the scheme du jour falls through, and then it's on to the next one. Of course, as I've noted numerous times on this blog, he's far from the only hustler who does this sort of thing. But that doesn't excuse any of his wrongdoings.

For now, it seems there's no getting around it: the Mini-Madoff of Melbourne is heading our way, seeking new opportunities in the land of bilk and money. Are Americans too smart for him? Don't count on it. This, after all, is the place where Bernie Madoff and untold numbers of lesser grifters could squeeze billions out of the nation's very richest (I mean, Steven Spielberg! C'mon!). This is the land where even notorious serial scammers like Kevin Trudeau can still make an obscenely good living by packaging hope and magical thinking for the desperate masses, while playing the hero/martyr role whenever they have a run-in with the law.

Really, David Schirmer will fit right in (he even has a head start on the martyrdom bit).

And who knows, he may even make the Masters Gathering project yet. If he's really lucky and keeps kissing up, maybe Mr. Fire will even start returning his Tweets. And if he can just put enough time and physical distance between himself and his troubles Down Under, he may yet be able to get into the V.I.P. room of The Club.

Lord help us all.

For more about David Schirmer, click on the "David Schirmer" tag below this post (this post will probably be on top, but simply scroll down)...or just Google! (Here's another blog, just to get you started. And no, I don't know who this person is.)

PS added February 7: I just received an anonymous disapproving comment today, but even though the person sent the comment as a response to a post I wrote back in November about the presidential election, I think s/he really intended to respond to this post. Rather than republishing the comment up here, I am simply going to link to it. Here's the link. So, Anon, you don't need to tell your friends that Cosmic Connie doesn't have the courage to publish your comment. I published it to the post to which you sent it.

Addendum: February 13
How to ruin a perfectly good friendship in a few easy Tweets:
1. Be a personal trainer for a successful New-Wage hustledork.
2. Exploit the heck out of that association by mentioning it on all of your social networking sites, including Twitter, and by making poor-quality videos with candid shots of the hustledork in your home.
3. Initiate a Twitter exchange with a notorious spruiker who is trying to get into The Club to which your hustledork friend belongs (and to which you are trying to gain membership yourself):

Trainer: @davidschirmer Hi David! Loved your bit in The Secret. I am good friends with Jack. Loving your tweets!!!

Spruiker: @MarvinTowler Thanks for your tweet. How close are you to Jack? I would love to catch up with him sometime, we met in Toronto 2 years ago

Trainer: @davidschirmer Really close. I can get you in touch with him if you'd like?

Spruiker: @MarvinTowler Hi Marvin, that would be great, especially if we could make contact for my upcoming US trip.

4. Wonder why the hustledork has mysteriously canceled his training sessions with you and won't return your phone calls.

Marvin, Marvin... friends don't let friends get involved with... oh, well, let's just sit back and see how this plays out. But don't say I didn't warn you, Marvin.

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Anonymous Furlink said...

Connie this guy is the biggest wanker alive. I have followed his crap for several years now and can't believe that he is involving yet more people. If he cannot follow through on promises he made several years ago and every year since, then how the hell do they think he will follow through just for them? What reason does he give and what proof has he given anyone that he intends to do the right thing this time?

I don't want this guy to come and suck up by gettting on stage and talking up all that crap when everyone now knows hes a fake. I will continue to follow this guy because there is something about him I just cannot trust. His greazy charm stinks and so far he seems to have sucked up and used a lot of people.

From my viewpoint it looks like Ben and John have no idea who they are getting involved with and noone is going to rush out and tell them either. I'll enjoy watching, its a good show.

Friday, February 06, 2009 8:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought, what if I just visualise cheques coming in the mail, so I just visualised a bunch of cheques coming in the mail. Within just one month, things started to change. And it's just amazing, today I just get cheques in the mail. I get a fewbills, but I get more cheques than bills."

Amazing, just amazing.

Friday, February 06, 2009 8:38:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Thank you for your comments, Furlink. And I agree with you; it is a pretty good show -- well, on one level, anyway. It's not so good when people get hurt. But as I said, these guys are just as capable of Googling as anyone else.

Friday, February 06, 2009 8:51:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Oh, yes, Eliz, DS is amazing, all right. At least that's one way of putting it... :-)

Friday, February 06, 2009 8:52:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

To the Anonymous commenter whose remarks I received today (February 7): I think you sent your comments to the wrong post. You may have intended to send them to this post but instead sent them to one I wrote last November. I added a PS to this post, explaining as much, but in case you skipped that and came here,
here is a link:

Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous yakaru said...

Great post, Connie. I find it really great, the way you are tracking and exposing this ratbag.

Lightheartedness and humor come over very well, given the unpleasant subject matter.

And to Anon (who posted in the wrong place), why are you so full of rage?

You should check out Connie's website and look at the matter from her perspective before being so negative and judgmental about something you haven't tried and don't understand.

If you take the bold step of actually understanding what she is saying, you will have a better chance of formulating an intelligent opinion of it, and if you then choose to criticise it, you may even be able to address some of the points she has made.

Instead, your comments are typical of the kind of insubstantial, negative, manipulative evasion tactics you reality-challenged types always come up with when you see something you don't like.

If the LOA works for you, then congrats, you are the only person on the planet and you are in line for a Nobel Prize in physics if you can back up your claims.

Though of course you wouldn't need the money, because you are rich and have already fulfilled every earthly desire, just like all the other millions of Secret fans.

Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:54:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Yak.

I've been thinking about this, and I imagine some people are bored with this topic, because David Schirmer really is small time compared to other con artists (both in and out of the New-Wage industry). But I just think it's important to track people like him. We Americans often tend to get complacent about things that happen "somewhere else," but -- all concepts of nonduality aside -- modern technology has allowed "anywhere" to be "everywhere." And the very fact that he's physically traveling to the US -- and soon! -- should be a matter of concern.

Anyway, I really appreciate your support.

Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:16:00 PM  
Anonymous mojo said...

Schirmer would probably be better off staying in Australia. I'm supposing there's much less competition down there. Here in the states he'll have to stand in line with all the others trying to cash in.

My understanding is that you, Connie, are (like me) at least somewhat involved in the professional writing and publishing industry. So don't all these New Age clone sorts remind you of neophyte writers who see Stephen King make a gazillion dollars off a single book, and they think THEY can just walk in off the street and do just as well? And they are utterly SHOCKED when they don't!

People who don't know the first thing about publishing somehow think they're going to be instantly rich, when in reality those big-money books are as rare as hitting the lottery. Most first-time authors are lucky to see an advance of $5,000, if THAT much; usually more along the lines of a thousand or two. (And those numbers are before the industry tanked this year... I have NO idea how bad the numbers are now.) That's what your average book writer gets for a year or so of work. And nine books out of ten don't earn back their advance, meaning they don't sell enough copies to pay back the advance given the author, meaning the author doesn't get any MORE money beyond that. That tiny tithe of money-makers (including, yes, the OCCASIONAL big-time blockbuster) pays for the other nine financial failures. And that's the way the publishing industry works, at least for now. (And probably somewhat explains why it's currently tanking.)

It looks to me (as an outside observer) like the New Age/self-help market operates the same way--one thing hits big, and immediately there's a hundred others jumping on trying to ride the coattails. There might still be a market for the clones, but they're not going to make the SCADS that the blockbusters have already made. And THEN you get another bunch of slower sorts dumpily tagging along after the clone group. They don't know the first thing about the subject matter at ALL, but they figure if so-and-so made money off of a lame book or tape program, WHY CAN'T THEY? Most of them languish in the obscurity they so richly deserve, while others fall victim to fellow scammers who tell them that "yes, indeed, you have a BRILLIANT thing here and you're sure to make GAZILLIONS off of it--just pay me a few hundred bucks and I'll show you how to make your millions right away!"

(This is the very same lame-o scam I was VERY PERIPHERALLY involved in exposing (NOT perpetrating!) something like twelve years ago, which you can read about here if your own life is indeed that boring:


It's rather amusing because I went out of my way to make the proposed book about as AWFUL and offensive as I could possibly make it, and Mister Scammer STILL suggested it had potential ... provided I send them $150! Being a foolish, foolish child, I did not take them up on their generous offer, because I am indeed a pathetic DREAMER and not a DOER. Or, as a New Wage circus-barker might say, they offered me this Golden Opportunity out of the kindness of their heart, and I did not take the initiative necessary to Change My Life, and they feel horribly horribly sorry for the likes of me, and they sincerely hope that others may Learn From My Negative Nellie Example and Not Make The Same Dreadful Mistake.)

Things are different, of course, if the people involved are talented. Of the few self-help sorts I've looked at or listened to, most are NOT. Say what you will about Tony Robbins, for example--and I've probably said the same things, for I am not a particular fan--but HIS stuff at least is professionally produced--not recorded with him sitting in his living room and his eight cats mewing around his legs and him rattling his script in the background. Tony's a reasonably entertaining public speaker. He's been doing it a long time, but I think he has some innate talent to communicate that takes him beyond mere longevity. He is WORLDS above most of the hacks out there. Some of it is money--he can afford to have professional scriptwriters, recording studios and sound engineers to edit out all the flubs and "ummms".

But beyond techie stuff, if he's not actually sincere about things, at least Robbins can FAKE sincerity like nobody's business. Makes all the difference in the world. You almost wanna like the guy, listening to him. Of the little else I have heard or read in this industry, no one comes even CLOSE to ol' Tony. They all say the same thing, mind you, but Tony's a good, solid entertainer, like a good "B" movie actor, while everyone else around him is still doing community dinner theater.

That's one of the reasons why television productions like "The Secret" get editorially hacked up so much, with each "guru" only getting a sentence or two--because many of them can't speak in public longer than that without starting to go "off message" and consequently looking like an idiot. There is a right way and a wrong way to conduct yourself in the media (as Sarah Palin learned the hard way). Most people can't--and probably SHOULDN'T--ad lib. They start going "uhhhh" and "ummmm" and revealing themselves to be the rambling, incoherent platitude-spewers they are.

True professionals have long ago figured out the EXACT words they are going to say and SAY them, and the very BEST ones make it sound natural and spontaneous. Yes, there are those who will argue that their message transcends the shortcomings of their materials, but you know what? It doesn't. To not care about production values is to completely disrespect your subject matter. The best, most profound, and most lyrically articulate writer in the world is not going to be read if they choose to communicate by scratching in the mud with a stick.

From what little I've seen of Schirmer's stuff, he's well into that "uhhh... ummmm" community dinner theater crowd. If people still want to plunk down money for shoddy, poorly produced garbage, well, one of the reasons I was only "peripherally" involved in the case cited above is, I really don't have the time nor the energy to keep saving people from themselves. Especially if the shysters on the other side of the fence keep hitting the free-money-greed button everyone's got. It would quickly become a full time job....

More power to ya, Connie. And glad to see you back! Looks like you finally recovered from that birthday celebration, huh?

Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he is on his way to American then hell yes, we need to track the guy and EXPOSE HIM! I'm all for it.

Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Nima said...

I didn't get it Connie ! To me this David guy would never deserve the energy that you put into writing about him. I bet he'll be happy to know that somebody has written extensively about him and giving all attention and coverage. What !? Are you scared of him or something? Or you just try be a “whistle blower “ to raise awareness and protect your fellow American against the "devil"? I don’t get . This post was as disappointing as it could get , considering being a reader of your post for a while . What happend to the used-to -be posts that kept me enticed to read till the end?

Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:59:00 PM  
Anonymous yakaru said...


I don't think Schirmer is at all happy about the attention Connie has given him, and I'm sure he checks this site regularly and adjusts his sales pitch accordingly (fun-loving, controversial, etc).

You accuse Connie of being motivated by a latent Christian fear of the devil, and that she has projected this onto David Schirmer. You say that her writing has suffered because she is unaware of this motivation.

The author has no way of disproving any of that, so there's no way to defend herself against the accusation. Further, as you haven't taken issue with anything specific in the article, any response to your "criticism" can only move further away from the issue hand. I wonder if that is your real motive - to distract attention from the way spiritual teachings are used to avoid reality.

So how about rewriting your criticism in clear language.

- Exactly what was it that led you to the conclusion that:

1) Connie is afraid of the devil, and
2) this influenced her writing in this article.
Giving examples for both, of course.

- And, seeing as you have made issue of Connie's motives, what exactly were yours, on a deeper level? If you try to expose someone else's deeper psyche, it's only fair you also explore your own and share honestly about it.

This is the information which was missing from your comment.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Mojo, on one hand I agree with you about the competition factor in the US as opposed to Australia. On the other, there's that "Secret" leverage factor. Let's face it: being in "The Secret" has given a huge push to more than one career, allowing second-, third- and fourth-tier hustledorks to make their way up in the ranks, just by virtue of having been in “The Secret.” Even some of those who were already doing extremely well, such as Jack Canfield of “Chicken Soup” fame, have admitted “The Secret” gave them a big upward push, and they don’t hesitate to use that association as part of their promo strategy. (One exception is the arrogant “Dr.” John “Mars-and-Venus” Gray, who already knew he was the most famous author alive, thank you, long before “The Secret” was a gleam in Rhonda Byrne’s third eye, or whatever that bit of costume bling on her noggin was supposed to be. “Dr.” Gray was in “The Secret,” but is apparently not one of those who needs the “As seen in ‘The Secret’” tag to promote himself.)

Anyway, my thinking is that David Schirmer could conceivably build a following among the naive and starry-eyed who are (1) enamored of "The Secret" and its ilk; (2) easily convinced that they too can become wealthy with little or no effort; and (3) not given to caring much about what is alleged to have happened to a few investors in Australia. (Then there’s the accent factor; we 'mer'cans are inexplicably charmed by Brit and Aussie accents. I’m kind of an Anglophile and Aussiephile myself. Just not a DS fan.)

In addition, DS’s target audience is famous for a type of optimism that more often than not crosses the border into abject denial. That tendency towards optimism/denial is why so many of the US hustledorks are now finding willing listeners for their message that the economic crisis is mostly a figment of the nasty mainstream media’s imagination.

I know I keep dragging up Kevin Trudeau as an example of someone who's been shown numerous times to be a fraud, but who is still raking in the dough, but bear with me. Thanks in part to Joe Vitale's recent shout-out, True-dough is still gaining followers who think of him as a brave activist, fighting against the US government and mainstream media. Granted, True-dough has carved out a unique niche as a so-called consumer advocate, and a martyred one at that, as opposed to being just another motivational speaker. Plus, he seems to be sharper and more dynamic than DS.

Still, I think the comparison is appropriate, and I think it would be a mistake to "misunderestimate" DS, or, more accurately, to underestimate the gullibility of his target market. I somehow think that even if he is convicted of something or other in Australia, there are a lot of people, particularly those in the US, who simply won't care.

To a large extent I also agree with you about the whole New-Wage wannabe scene. Everyone in that industry wants to be Tony Robbins, or at least as famous as Tony. And I agree that in many ways TR is extraordinary. This doesn’t mean I’m a fan either, although I do like some of his earlier works, and I have to admire his business model even if it’s slightly repulsive on some levels. However, the selfish-help/New-Wage industry is a nearly nine-billion-dollar-a-year industry (and still growing, it seems, despite the recession or whatever is going on), and TR isn’t raking in ALL of that money. The point is that there is a sufficient number of others out there who have really made it big in the industry – maybe not Tony-Robbins big, but big anyway – to convince thousands of wannabes that they, too, have a good chance of getting into The Club. And, as you noted, that’s the way most of the successful hustledorks make their money: by convincing those thousands that they can achieve similar or even greater success if they just make a personal investment in themselves (translation: buy whatever product or sign up for whatever workshop the hustler is selling that day).

As we both know, however, success in this business (as in many other businesses) is just as much about personality and presentation as it is about product. Maybe even more so. Most of the successful New-Wage gurus make a large part of their living through public speaking, workshops, etc., and they have to be pretty good at it if they’re going to be successful. As for the reasons that “The Secret” was so hacked up, I’m sure you’re right about the unedited interviews being full of “um’s” and “ah’s” and rambling. But I also think that cherry-picking was the major factor, with the aim being to present the Law Of Attraction in the most simplistic, feel-good light possible to make it appealing to the widest audience possible. (There was also a deliberate choice to make the focus more on material goodies than intangibles, because, well, that’s what Americans are so obsessed with.)

Platitudes or not, some of the people in “The Secret” are really very good speakers. I can’t speak about all of the “stars,” but I have heard the aforementioned Joe Vitale speak on numerous occasions, and he is a good speaker – not just in scripted speeches but in interviews. OTOH, Bob Proctor, the elder statesman of selfish-help, always comes across to me as a doddering fool, especially when he talks about quantum physics or compares the Law Of Attraction to electricity. Within the ranks of the New-Wage gurus there are varying degrees of talent in the art of public speaking. But, lousy speakers or not, being in “The Secret” really did provided a big upward push for many.

As for production values, again I agree with you that these often fall short of even minimal expectations. However, these days technology has made it easier and less expensive to have professionally produced materials, and although many of the lesser hustledorks are indeed producing lousy-looking stuff, as you noted, many also have very nice web sites, publications and other products. It may be B.S. (in my view), but it’s often very slick and pretty B.S.

Finally, I soooo agree with you too about the publishing scene and the unrealistic views many authors have. You’re right about Ron and me being involved in this bidness. We make our living ghostwriting and editing manuscripts, and we also do book/cover design for authors who self-publish. We always try to present our clients with a realistic picture of what they can expect, whether they go with a trade publisher or publish independently. We let them know that success is a crap shoot and that publishing is first and foremost a business. This means that they have to treat it like a business if they’re doing it themselves, or, if they’re approaching a trade publisher, they have to keep in mind that (to paraphrase a much-paraphrased famous dead President) they have to focus not on what the publisher can do for them, but on what they can do for the publisher. All we can guarantee is that we will do the best we can to make their works as professional and marketable as possible.

Well, enough rambling. Now I’m off to read your own story – not because my life is boring, but because yours so obviously isn’t! Thanks again for your support.

PS ~ I’m still celebrating my birthday; we had frozen some of those brownies. :-)

Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Ah, Nima, some of the questions you're asking are the same ones I've asked myself. I really don't have a specific agenda as a whistle-blower or any sort of hero to my nation, and no, I'm not afraid of David Schirmer on any level. But for some reason I really feel sympathy for the people who have publicly come out with claims of damages by his hand. And that, I think, is why I have given him so much "attention." You may very well be right that I've given him too much attention, but for reasons even I may not be fully aware of, I feel it's important.

However, even I don't think that this was remotely close to being one of my finest posts, either from a cleverness, eloquence, or whistle-blowing standpoint. Matter of fact, I had a gut feeling that some folks might find this piece downright boring, and some might be asking, "Why bother?" However, I also thought that some might find it helpful, perhaps even entertaining. That's pretty much the most I have ever hoped for on this blog. In any case, I hope you'll return in the future, because I have a lot more to write about, and it's not all about small-time con artists with big-time dreams.

But do know that I appreciate the criticism.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 4:03 PM: Thanks; I appreciate the support. Whether I'm making too big a deal of DS or not -- and I as well as others have entertained that possibility -- I'm thinking this post might contain some useful information.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Hi again, Yakaru, and thanks for the comment to Nima, which must have come in while I was busy typing my other long-winded responses. :-) That's why I responded to some of those other comments before responding to your latest. Blogger will publish comments in the order in which they come in, no matter if that doesn't match up with the order in which they were approved.

But anyway...

As you can see by my response to Nima, I actually asked myself some of the same questions about my motives. My main concern was that this post might not be my "best," for several reasons, one reason being that DS is kind of small-time compared to other New-Wage hustlers. In any case, we're dealing with subjective judgments, and if Nima was simply disappointed in the substance or the style of the post, I don't necessarily see a need for a detailed critique, though of course I too would be interested. :-)

And I do agree with you that DS is probably not real happy about my blogging, although I'm not the only blogger who has presented him in a less than favorable light. As you noted, however, he's always trying to make lemonade out of lemons. I give him points for creativity, if nothing else. F'rinstance, last year he borrowed one of my Photoshopping efforts (the pic of him with the two Disney characters) and put it on his own site. Did I mind? Not a bit, because, after all, I used an image from his site to create *my* image. Fair's fair!

Thank you again for your continuing support.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Nima said...

To yakaru, and Connie
Christianity, and spiritual teaching? I'm more of an atheist, and I watch Bill Maher whenever I can. I love communications with that come with personal spins. I have no preference as what the issue is or what stand the person takes.
I love connie's writing because she takes my mind away and gets me glued to my monitor... Reading this post I had to skim and skip some. it was nothing like my experience from reading her post .Then I stumbled upon the phrase "Lord help us all". And it brought me back to scene in a classic religious movie where the old lady with a concerned face tells it to the people of her village after talking about some evil or something. Nonetheless, Connie couldn't be more apt in writing that phrase in that gave me an idea of her personal feelings at that very moment.
Connei, your post was the aha moment in that there's a very fine line between a true skepticism or cynicism and getting personally and emotionally involved.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 2:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's been chased out of Oz by Skippy the Bush Kangaroo.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:03:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anonymous said...

"He's been chased out of Oz by Skippy the Bush Kangaroo."

Hi, HHH, I was wondering when you were going to join the party! :-)

Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:27:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Hi, Nima, and thank you for clarifying. This was definitely one of those posts that was less "personal" than others, and I can see why you would find it less engaging.

I myself am pretty much an agnostic, so when I say "Lord help us" (or "God help us," or "Goddess help us," or anything like that), there's always an implied qualifier: "If there *is* one." :-)

As for the emotion behind my "Lord help us all" bit at the end of *this* post, that was actually an odd mixture of genuine concern and humorous exaggeration. I honestly do not see David Schirmer as the ultimate evil incarnate, but I do think people need to watch out for him.

That said, my thoughts (and, yes, my prayers, such as they are) are with everyone in the parts of Australia where the bush fires have been raging -- and yes, that includes the Schirmers. I certainly don't wish them or anyone else any physical harm. More than 100 people have lost their lives so far in these fires, and many more than that have lost their homes and everything they own. There are descriptions of 40-story-high flames racing across the countryside. It's pretty scary.

Anyway, Nima, thanks for writing back and clarifying.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, it's not me, I don't want no trouble from vindictive new agers.

Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But I must let you in on one of Australia's other cultural experts.


That's some hot rock, man!

Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Yakaru said...

To Nima,
Thanks for the clarification. Put like that, I can understand more where you're coming from.

I had suspected a closet Secretoid attempting a quick hit and run. Wrong, obviously.

Monday, February 09, 2009 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Schirmer is now exploiting the people of Victorias misfortune as a way of making money for himself. Apparently he has been reported to the authorities in Australia and I have to say that I find that extremely distasteful and greedy. What happened to selfless giving? Is that the best he can do? Shameful.

Monday, February 09, 2009 4:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think David or Lorna Schirmer know what is ahead of them. What wicked people. May they get what they really deserve soon.

Monday, February 09, 2009 7:08:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anon 4:08 PM: I see what you mean about the exploitation. David Schirmer does seem to be turning the bush fires in Victoria into a selling opportunity, under the guise of helping the victims.

To begin with, there's this on Twitter:
"The Secret teacher donating 20% of sales to #bushfires appeal. http://tinyurl.com/bu
shfire... Please help, retweet as much as possible"

The link to that Tweet:

The tinyurl link in the Tweet takes you to a page on his David Schirmer Group (DSG) web site, in which he is selling three of his DVD sets for the "ridiculously low" price of $1297. At the top of the page there is also a video of his "Bush Fire Appeal." (He calls it the "Victorian Bush Fire Appeal" in the video, but the logo on the top calls it the "Australian Bush Fire Appeal." Simple mistake, or sneaky way of making his promises more ambiguous?)

The link to the DSG page is:

In a slightly earlier Tweet he wrote:
"THANKYOU to all who sent msgs of concern/support during Victorian #bushfires Heres my story & how we can help http://ping.fm/NUfjV "

The link to that Tweet: http://twitter.com/davidschirmer/status/1191953938

The ping.fm link in that second Tweet goes to his Feb. 9 blog post. At the end of the blog post he writes:


As a business, we have decided to do whatever we can to help those in great need. Some
people have lost everything dear to them, including their family and neighbours. We are
donating 20% of all product sales from now through until the end of February to the Red
Cross Bushfire Appeal. We ask you to help us. Thank you in advance.

To help the bushfire victims, go to http://tinyurl.com/bushfirehelp


Naturally, that link leads to his selling page rather than to an external link run by the
Red Cross or any federal emergency assistance sites. He does have the Aussie Red Cross
logo on the top of that page, though the picture does not link to the Red Cross site.

Maybe someone needs to alert the Aussie Red Cross about this so they can be on the lookout for money coming in from the David Schirmer Group.

As I noted in a response to a previous commenter, I don't wish Schirmer or his family -- or anyone -- any physical harm. And I am sure that the fires are genuinely upsetting to him. But I do find it annoying when I see what looks like crass opportunism.

At least so far he hasn't written any bone-headed blog posts insinuating that victims of the bush fires simply were not practicing the Law Of Attraction properly (or weren’t right with Jesus, God, etc.). Many of us remember a controversial blog post written by another New-Wage guru during the California wildfires of October 2007:

Naturally, I had a few things to say about that...

Anyway, my thoughts and good wishes (for what they’re worth) go out to the victims of the Australian bush fires.

Monday, February 09, 2009 7:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the hell should anyone HELP THE SCHIRMERS when they have spent their life HELPING THEMSELVES TO EVERYONE ELSES STUFF?

The RED CROSS DONATION LINE has been put in place in Australia for that purpose. I agree with you, they are doing nothing more than exploiting a very very tragic situation just to line their own pockets. Their last attempt to give to a charity was exposed on national tv in Australia as nothing more than a scam. The charity was phoned and they had not even heard of David Schirmer. Why would it be any different this time. Especially when he has been accused in the Federal Court of misleading and deceptive conduct. What could be more misleading and deceptive than what they are trying to do right now?

Thanks for making a point of it, they deserve exposing for the money hungry greed monsters that they are.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good one Connie, Schirmer is far too busy putting out his own fires these days so he's after all the help he can get. All the free offerings, all the money you are willing to give him, all the free love you can spare, all the "put me on the pedestal and damn well leave me alone" offerings but its just not getting him anyway. Nobody wants him but it does seems hes managed to find a few more suckers. Lets see how long they last. Schirmers latest attempt to work on peoples pity towards the bushfire victims is nothing other than what I've come to expect from the guy. He has no backbone and he has no morals. He is just a very greedy...man who cant afford to accept hes done wrong because that would blow up in his face. Frankly you can have him and his imaginary little entourage, I'm more into reality myself.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anons 12:10 AM and 10:41 AM: In light of the scope of this tragedy, I would ordinarily be tempted to give anyone promising to help the bushfire victims the benefit of the doubt, and I might even be tempted to wonder if our collective grousing here is just another example of the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." However, as has been noted, David Schirmer has a history of deception, including deception about charitable donations. I think anyone wishing to help the bushfire victims would probably be wise to seek other avenues.

I also want to mention that I've seen a few other online entrepreneurs who are now doing promos around the bush fire, offering to donate proceeds to organizations helping the victims.

For example, there's one going on now at SitePoint:

From what I can see, however, SitePoint doesn't have a long history of complaints against their business practices. And they are donating ALL of the proceeds for a certain period (from now through Friday the 13th) to help victims. So I am thinking that SitePoint would be a better choice than the David Schirmer Group for those who want to get something for their donations besides a tax deduction and/or the satisfaction of helping others.

PS ~ Standard disclaimer: I have no affiliation with or interest in SitePoint; I found out about their promo from one of the people I'm following on Twitter, filmmaker Andrew Einspruch.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If people want to donate to the Victorian Bushfire appeal it can be done directly through the Australian Red Cross site:


Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Karen M said...

This guy should do a study on delusion because it is impossible to continue on that path and get ahead when everyone walking along behind him is laughing at his back. Thats what he is not seeing.....

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Australian Television Channel 9is having a telethon tonight for the Bushfire Victims. Why would anyone just buy a product from this guy so that some of the money can go to charity. It costs them the same and they have no guarantee that it will get to where its promised. As others have pointed out it apparently didnt previously. On the other hand legitimate organisations will offer a deductible receipt for any contribution, surely that makes more sense! And you know it is going to the cause, or at least most of it. This guys reputation will proceed him wherever he goes I am certain of it as none of his mates in the secret are including him in anything. Why could that be now? Oh gosh, he's screwed over one too many maybe? Of course he has otherwise why would it happen.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my opinion David and Lorna Schirmer are a disgraceful example of Australians. Never have I considered people so greedy and money hungry in all my life and all I see is greed and ugliness. Such a shame that their actions appear to have affected so many very negatively.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Schirmer DOES NOT HOLD A FINANCIAL SERVICES LICENSE and is not permitted to give stock market recommendations so his claim at being the best is highly questionable. I would recommend anyone considering being educated by any teacher that they investigate their credentials, ask for proof of their claims and if they can't or don't want to give any RUN, RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:32:00 PM  
Blogger Salty Droid said...

Gr8!! You've done ALL the hard work for me >> now I can skip right to publicly humiliation and profanity.

Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Jaded Olive said...

Schirmers comeback is that all of his problems have been created by some very vindictive woman. Do I sense that Schirmer himself is guilty as hell about his experience with that person? Why on earth would you continually blame one person when so many people have said so much about what you've done. How thick is this guy? They should give that woman a bloody gold logie because if Schirmer is so obsessed with her he has serious problems and he will be forever running away from his problems. All this time he has been blaming everyone else what about quitting the crap and doing something for society for a change instead of blaming everyone else and ripping everyone off. His trip to the US seems to have been a bloody marketing fest. God help us all!!!

Monday, March 09, 2009 1:54:00 AM  
Anonymous John Brittan said...

Great post - what a jerk!

Monday, April 13, 2009 6:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have come to the conclusion that Christianity in this guys eyes is using all the money he can get his hands on to have whatever he wants and give his family whatever they want. I feel that if he ever did get any money he would rather spend it on himself than pay his debts. I am very offended that he even calls himself Christian and I hope the people in his church see the light soon enough or before they too get hurt. I would think that the first thing a Christian would try to do is settle any differences they have with anyone to find peace but that doesn't appear to be the case in this guys life. He seems so money hungry that he would grab at anything for a quick dose of self satisfaction. Too bad he wasn't exposed much earlier. I feel very sorry for those people trying to find a solution with someone like this.

Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is happening with this guy? He has gone very quiet is he preparing for a big launch of his trading stuff like he is predicating in twonother blogs? His trading skills have been exposed already so I think he should try a different business instead. Maybe selling oceans of potions to his twitterdom sillies would be ideal. He has control of the people who have linked him up, or so he thinks so they will soon be swamped with schirmer marketing which probably would make ok toilet paper really. So yes he does have some use.

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Anonymous Suzanne E said...

This guy is a FAKE!

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Schirmer will be sucking up to John Smart as much as he can because John Smart has just sold his Neways business and Schirmer knows hes got some cash. Schirmer sniffs out people like this to screw over because he is intensely jealous of people who really do have some cash behind them. You watch, Schirmer will be screwing h him over behind his back with the wink of an eye and that John Smart guy won't know whats hit him.

Saturday, June 06, 2009 1:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats happening with this joker. I see he is now linked to grow church in Melbourne Australia but in what capacity? Getting browny points wont erase the past but it deludes him into thinking it might blind people to his past. Hes probably training to be a priest so he can fleece his own parishioners one day soon. Nothing would surprise me and God help him if he does start up his own church, he will have hell to pay then.

Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:06:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anon Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:06:00 PM (and other recent commenters): I hadn't heard much about Schirmer at all lately. Apparently he never did make it back to the US to hit the American market big time. Prolly skulking in his little corner of Oz doing the churchly thing, as you implied. But if anyone has any updates, I'd be happy to hear them.

Friday, March 16, 2012 2:31:00 PM  

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