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Across the Universe with Cosmic Connie, aka Connie L. Schmidt...or maybe just through the dung-filled streets and murky swamps of pop culture -- more specifically, the New-Age/New-Wage crowd, pop spirituality & religion, pop psychology, self(ish)-help, business babble, media silliness, & related (or occasionally unrelated) matters of consequence. Hope you're wearing boots. (By the way, the "Cosmic" bit in my moniker is IRONIC.)

Saturday, May 21, 2011

Mean ABC 20/20 skewers (and crucifies!) gorgeous fitness model

“Being filmed in a Rolls-Royce with a gorgeous fitness model at your side is a lot different than being interviewed by a sharp mainstream TV news reporter.”
~ Joe "Mr. Fire" Vitale,
February 7, 2010

"Being filmed in a Rolls-Royce with a boastful buffoon whose mailing list you paid THOUSANDS to get your hands on in order to expand your own scams is a lot different from being accosted in a parking lot by some bleeping mainstream TV news reporter wanting to quibble about the claims you've made in your infomercials."
~Jennifer Nicole Lee, gorgeous fitness model*

Y'all probably remember that last year Joe "Mr. Fire" Vitale had an actual celebrity guest on one of his famous Rolls-Royce Phantom ride-alongs, as opposed to the usual lineup of irrationally hopeful wannabes with more money than sense. The celeb in question was "Bikini Diva" Jennifer Nicole Lee, aka JNL, who's most famous for hawking an exercise machine called the Ab-Roller Pro, and the ride took place in early 2010. This was a true breakthrough for Joe. And it was right in keeping with one of his own passions, fitness; after all, besides being the Buddha of the Internet, he is also the Charles Atlas of the Internet. What made the whole thing even more thrilling was that ABC News went right along and filmed the historic ride.

In a March 2010 post, Joe breathlessly blogged:

I confess that when Jennifer booked her evening with me for the Phantom Rider experience, I wasn’t sure how I could help her. After all, she’s already successful. And she’d already read all my books and listened to all my programs.

What was left?

But she later told me — as well as ABC News — that she got her money’s worth within the first 15 minutes of our conversation. We generated new ideas and came up with money-making plans she hadn’t thought of before. She loved it.

It was all one big party. A little over a month before he wrote that post, Joe had written another blog post about "attracting ABC news. This is the one in which he praised the sharp reporter who grilled him, Dan Harris. Some of us haters and naysayers saw it as kind of a proactive move: we figured he was thinking that if he kissed up to Dan (after all, they have so much in common! They both love indie music!), the report that ultimately aired would show Joe in a flattering light. And if things didn't go his way, Joe could always blame the mainstream media for stubbornly refusing to see all the good that the selfish-help industry does, or for editing out all the good bits. Either way, he had his bases covered.

Meanwhile, there was all that link love between JNL and Joe (not to mention the probable list love going on in the background). I'm sure JNL did pick up some marketing tips from Joe, and if so I'm guessing -- but only guessing -- that they centered on a few basic hustledork/hustledorkess principles:

1. Say anything you think you can get away with. People WANT to believe (well, except for those nasty mainstream reporters and those hater bloggers).
2. Don't be afraid to change your story as frequently as possible to make your marketing more effective. People love stories, and they have short memories (well, except for those nasty mainstream reporters and those hater bloggers).

3. Don't be afraid to pick your customer's pockets.** Find out your customers' credit limits and work around that. Forced continuity is the key to a healthy bottom line. And remember: Upsell, upsell, upsell!

Months passed, and finally ABC aired the results of those interviews in June 2010. The first one seemed like a fluff piece on the surface. One could almost hear Joe breathing a huge sigh of relief as some of his critics wondered WTF. But some saw the piece as a straightforward depiction of the facts, and the facts spoke for themselves. ABC didn't have to expend any effort make a buffoon out of Joe or out of the people who really pay $5,000 or more to ride with him. (JNL, as you'll see below, claimed she paid TEN grand. If that's true, methinks it's that list-love thing again.)

Anyway, as I've noted here before, despite all of Joe's kissing up by describing Dan Harris as tough but fair ("and I really liked him!"), ABC did not return the favor . The segment they finally aired on June 29, 2010 was mostly about James Arthur "Death" Ray, but it was also about the selfish-help industry in general, and Mr. Fire was showcased briefly and not flatteringly towards the end. (Here's Salty Droid's take on it: http://saltydroid.info/death-ray-mind-games/ )

So I imagine Joe rued the day that he ever agreed to be interviewed by ABC. But he showed them. As another proactive measure, he'd had his sweetie Nerissa (who says she is his wife, although to my knowledge he's never described her as such) record the entire interview with her flip camera. And he provided a link on his podcast blog on July 12, 2010, in a brief post entitled, "ABC News TV interview -- not aired." He wrote:

ABC news interviewed me for almost an hour early this year. But what they aired six months later was about one minute of the 47 minute interview.

Of course, they did their best to mislead, distort and stay negative. You can listen to the entire unedited interview right here. It's sincere, positive, and complete. This was recorded by Nerissa as she held a flip camera in my office.


And now, after watching last night's 20/20 segment, I'm thinking that maybe the lovely fitness model Jennifer Nicole Lee doesn't like ABC so much either. She even threatened to have them arrested.

20/20 and Consumer Reports teamed up for a report on infomercials and some of the top infomercial stars. One of the ABC reporters caught up to JNL in a parking lot outside of her tanning salon to ask her about some of the claims on her infomercials for the Ab-Roller Pro.

She apparently did not like the questions.

"You're obviously trying to skewer me!" the distraught but gorgeous fitness model cried, more than once. She also said more than once that ABC was trying to crucify her. Or at least it appeared that she said these things more than once. It could be that the nefarious ABC editors looped it back around to make it appear that she was just repeating herself because she didn't have any credible answer to the reporter's questions. You know how those "gotcha" media types like to twist people's words around and take them out of context. It's too bad Nerissa wasn't there with her flip camera.

Of course Salty Droid had already skewered and crucified JNL -- as well as her Phantom mentor -- nearly one year previously, but important gorgeous fitness models like Jennifer Nicole Lee don't pay attention to those negative naysayer hater blogs. Evidently gorgeous fitness models, like New-Wage hucksters, are too busy inventing new frauducts and flopportunities, and then making up new stories about how they became successful by using the new creation. The stories they tell vary depending upon the frauduct or flopportunity they're promoting.

F'rinstance, a few short years ago Jennifer said, on Oprah, that she got skinny partly by an exercise routine that included "Baby Squats." She used her toddler Dylan as a weight while she did squats. Later when she began peddling the Ab-Roller Pro she ditched the kid from the backstory and said she she got skinny and fit just by using the Ab-Roller Pro. (That word "just" was apparently one of the main points ABC questioned her about.)

And even though ABC didn't mention this bit, I'd like to point out that even later, JNL decided to make it sound as if she got skinny and rich by hanging with overpriced success gurus, as quoted by Salty in the "Phantom Menace" blog post I linked to above:

“My name is Jennifer Nicole Lee, and I went from fat to fabulous, from poor to rich all from coaching and watching those who succeeded in their own lives, and then applied their trade secrets to my own life.

I recently enjoyed a chance of a life time being coached by Dr. Joe Vitale …

I gave myself the treat to visit with him, and purchased his “Rolls Royce Mastermind Meeting”, which I paid a hefty price of $10,000. And it was worth every penny!”

Alas, ABC had to go spoil things by asking her about the inconsistencies in her various success stories, as well as grilling her on whether or not the before and after pics in her promo material were Photoshopped -- and, to add insult to injury, questioning her claims that she got her fab body by working out a mere three minutes a day. That darned mainstream media again.

During the parking lot "grillfest," JNL finally said she'd had enough, and told the crew they could schedule a sit-down interview that very day. So, according to the reporter, the ABC folks waited...and waited...and waited... (apparently JNL simply sat in her car and drank bottled water while they were waiting). Finally ABC heard from Jen's lawyer, who told them never to contact her again, and if they even tried to do so, Jen would have them arrested.***

Take that, mainstream media!

"Dr." Joe Vitale, who of course is also known for changing his own "success" stories as the mood suits him, could have told her there would be days like this, and he probably did. In fact, another star of The Secret, David Schirmer, aka Shameless Schirmer, aka The Mini-Madoff of Melbourne, aka The Wanker of Oz, could have told Jen the same thing. After all, he got skewered by the equally mean Australian media, which resulted in some investigations into his business affairs by the ASIC (the Oz equivalent of the SEC), which ultimately resulted in his getting banned for life from practicing in the financial trade in Australia.

Maybe Jen and Joe can take another ride in his Rolls and whine about it together over Vitale steaks in the Vitale Cigar Bar. And if there's room for two more, maybe they can invite David Schirmer.

* She hasn't said it, but I bet she's thinking it. And in all fairness, Joe probably wanted her list too...or something.
** "Don't be afraid to pick their pockets" is actually advice that Joe gave me years ago, more than once.
*** Interestingly enough, though, some of the questionable claims (and photos) have since been modified in the Ab-Roller Pro infomercials. This is probably a combined result of numerous consumer complaints and the ABC grillfest.

PS ~ Here's the vid of JNL and ABC. You can also watch it (and the rest of the infomercial episode) on http://abcnews.go.com/2020/.

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Blogger Burned by Fire said...

Does Fireboy even have the Rolls Royce anymore? I think someone mentioned that he was just leasing it. He tried to sell his beloved yellow Panoz roadster recently on eBay for $100,000, but the highest bid he got was $30,000. Times must be rough for the Wimberliars. And he hasn't promoted his rolls rides lately, so I have to wonder if he let that lease go.

Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:08:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

What? Mr. Fire tried to sell "Ladybug," the Panoz roadster once owned by the famous rock star, Aerosmith's Steven Tyler?

OMG, what's next... will he give up Francine? Or maybe Francine just finally got so jealous of Ladybug that she delivered an ultimatum: "It's either her or me, Fireboy."

You'd think that instead of selling Ladybug he would give her to a member of his faithful inner circle.

I've heard he's really generous, after all.

And you're right; he hasn't been promoting the RR Masterminds lately. I believe I did read on Mark Ryan's blog that Fireboy just leased the Rolls b/c that was more economical than owning it. But maybe the days of the RR Masterminds are past. Perhaps Mr. Fire has decided to concentrate on building a new illusion via the Private Jet Masterminds he has been coyly hinting about. Maybe he has to sell a few bits of his multi-million dollar estate in order to be able to afford to lease a private jet and make it look as if he owns it.

It seems that despite the popular hustledork marketing hook that you can have everything -- and more! -- if you'll just allow yourself to have it, life is a series of trade-offs. Even for formerly homeless multi-millionaires who starred in The Secret.

Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous hhH said...

"They both love indie music!"

What's this, CC, is Vitale a Smiths fan?

He looks like a Sinatra type to me, but who knows?

Miraculously, my word verifyer says instipe.

Onviously it says Vitale was into early REM when they were cool and indie.

That word verifyer thing is a bit of a tease isn't it? It kind of hints that it knows what's going on, but never quite spells it out...

Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:30:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

No, HHH, I think Mr. Fire is more into newer indie groups and singers. Smiths are kind of 1980s. Dan Harris is always tweeting about some up-and-coming group.

REM may not be indie but I still think they are pretty cool.

Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Panic in the streets of Austin
Houston, Dallas, Galveston.
I wonder to my-y se-e-e-elf

I reckon many people think, "look at this charming man"! when they meet Vitale, specially when he starts telling them there is a light that never goes out and all those other platitudes. They don't know that he works hand in glove with the devil, I mean, when people come to him saying "please, please, please let me get what I want!!" he probably tells them that all they have to do is ask.
Unfortunately, all he has to sell is a hatful of hollow and a lot of people are going to be left thinking 'heaven know I'm miserable now'!

Don't you think?

I don't know if I agree with you about REM, I liked them as a small indie band more.

Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:15:00 PM  
Anonymous MZ said...

That was funny - Jennifer gets caught with her hand in the proverbial cookie jar - all thanks to the ab circle pro.

First says there's 2 parts to the sentence, then denies it even says that. ABC quoted it stone-cold too. Then does the classic LOA Dodge, saying how happy she is to spread her positive message.

Poor Joe, first Osho, then K Trudeau, then Jennifer. Wonder why Jennifer couldn't just do some ho'oponopono to get rid of ABC. After all, according to Joe and Len, she would have attracted them, and is responsible for them. Not to mention ho'oponopono is cheaper than hiring lawyers to go after ABC. Or used some of Joe's mastermind techniques she learned in the Rolls, or contacted the guru himself for his help.

But I guess lawyers actually work...

Monday, May 23, 2011 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Anon May 22 5:15 PM: LOL.

BTW, you do know that Mr. Fire has a CD of his own out now, don't you? It's called "Blue Heel." I mean, "Blue Healer." To tell the truth, I think he was inspired by me and my whole turning-things-blue theme on this blog. Also I have a dog named Kali that's a Blue Heeler mix. But I don't expect to get any royalties from the sale of the CD, which can be purchased online from a site that doesn't provide listening samples. http://www.mrfire.com/mojo/ You have to buy a pig in a poke, apparently.

Monday, May 23, 2011 12:34:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

MZ: You nailed it re JNL's classic hustledork/LOA dodges -- as well as her apparent hypocrisy on several fronts. Why not use all of those magickal techniques to get rid of the pesky ABC folks? Why threaten them with lawyers and jail?

As you pointed out, ABC did quote her [original] infomercial claim accurately. And as I mentioned in my post, JNL has also claimed that her own fat-to-fit (and rags-to-riches) tale was a result of hanging around other hustledorks (aka "those who succeeded in their own lives").

I quoted a brief JNL passage that Salty Droid had quoted on the "Phantom Menace" post on his own blog. Salty got the JNL quotation from one of her blog posts announcing her "coaching" program. She wrote (and I'll re-quote, as well as add some bits I didn't put in my original post):

"My name is Jennifer Nicole Lee, and I went from fat to fabulous, from poor to rich *all* [emphasis mine ~CLS] from coaching and watching those who succeeded in their own lives, and then applied their trade secrets to my own life.

"I recently enjoyed a chance of a life time being coached by Dr. Joe Vitale. He is a legendary bestselling author, featured teacher and star in the record breaking movie 'The Secret', who also is a HUGE self-made multi-millionaire. And get this, he was once homeless! But he finally learned from others, got some invaluable coaching and transformed his life from rags to riches.

"He also wrote the forward [sic] to my bestselling book, the Jennifer Nicole Lee Book called Mind Body and Soul available at www.MindBodyandSoulBook.com

"He is a friend of mine, and an extraordinary Coach to me. I have learned so many great business productivity increasing tips, self improvement tools, and life changing techniques from Dr. Joe Vitale that I could not even put a price point on the value."

Here's the link to the entire post:

The post was rife with live links; every other word or phrase linked to one site: http://www.clubjnl.com/

Anyway, the point is that JNL seemed to be giving *all* credit to hanging around inspiring people -- not to the Ab Roller or the Baby Squats.

Monday, May 23, 2011 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

So Connie, what do you think about Obama's ass kissing to the queen?

I'm surprised she didn't tell him to fetch her a sherry.
Didn't y'all fight a revolutionary war so as not to have to fawn and grovel over royalty?
Sorry, my mistake.

Monday, May 23, 2011 1:55:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

I mean, when you consider....


is this off topic?

Monday, May 23, 2011 2:36:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Maybe 'tis a bit off topic, but any thread that involves old Brit sitcoms (Britcoms?) is A-OK with me.

Re royal ass-kissing, I'm still reeling from the way the US press drooled, gushed, and otherwise wet themselves over that recent royal wedding. Yawn.

But that was then. Now they're back to drooling over American royalty -- Oprah -- and making a big deal out of her final days. So far, though, no one seems to be asking her if she had any regrets about touting The Secret and James Arthur "Death" Ray. They're too busy kissing her royal arse.

Monday, May 23, 2011 3:10:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

Oprah's final days?


Oh, I see.

Was the drooling bad, I saw some of it and it looked like, well, you're gone. But TV never gives an accurate picture of what people think as a whole.

I suppose the raw spectacle and Mills and Boon marry-a-prince fantasy have an appeal to a lot of people... people who have never had to fork out for any of it, primarily, I would say.

Do Obama's suits and holidays come out of tax dollars? I suppose he's a salaried public servant.

I honestly didn't get it, what was all that stuff about the queen being the finest of the English? Who was that meant for, rally?
I look for the ironic smirk but Obama just seems intent on buttering up some imaginary royalist that doesn't really exist.
Or maybe he knows something we don't.

Let me see, Kenya, British territory.
Wasn't his grandad tortured by the British?

Monday, May 23, 2011 3:39:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

From wikipedia...

"In early 1952, Elizabeth and Philip set out for a tour of Australia and New Zealand by way of Kenya. On 6 February 1952, they had just returned to their Kenyan home, Sagana Lodge, after a night spent at Treetops Hotel, when word arrived of the death of Elizabeth's father. Philip broke the news to the new queen."

From the Daily Telegraph

"Hussein Onyango was arrested in 1949 and jailed for two years in a high security prison as the British struggled to quell one of Africa's bloodiest and most desperate rebellions against colonial rule... The African warders were instructed by the white soldiers to whip him every morning and evening till he confessed,' Sarah Onyango, Hussein Onyango’s third wife, told The Times.... He said they would sometimes squeeze his testicles with parallel metallic rods. They also pierced his nails and buttocks with a sharp pin, with his hands and legs tied together with his head facing down,' she was quoted as saying."

Meaning Britain had it's own Abu Ghraibs all over the empire.

QE2 acceeded the throne in 1953 so Obama's grandad' torture was done, in part, in her name.
Assuming the allegations are true.

Which leads us where? I'm not quite sure, but somewhere quite ironic I think.

Monday, May 23, 2011 3:59:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

Here you go, Mau Mau rebellion.(no part 3)


Monday, May 23, 2011 4:25:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

I don't know, Obama was just doing the diplomatic thing, petting the inhabitants of airstrip one on the head, don't ruffle the feathers of the British establishment.
Of course, behind the scenes he was urging her majesty to abdicate, to abolish the monarchy in the name of democracy, to ascend the moral ladder to stand alongside the free republics of the world, the British people must be free to carve their own destiny...

Um, no, we are useful like the Saudi's and etc.

Connie, should the UK have an elected head of state?
Would it make a difference?

Monday, May 23, 2011 7:25:00 PM  
Anonymous hhh said...

Here, John Lydon points at the empty space where he wrote God Save the Queen.


Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:41:00 AM  
Anonymous mojo said...

I've been busy with other, less happy things, but I feel the need to comment since I recently read the observation "The internet is written in ink". (I think it was in a story on rumor control and the viral nature of the beast.) I can't help but think that such merciless scrutiny is ultimately a GOOD thing. Total perfection raises suspicion--like nothing but five-star gushes on Amazon--for it ignores the simple fact that flawed human beings make mistakes. (Granted, I wouldn't necessarily characterize certain, carefully-thought-out schemes to defraud others a "mistake", but hey, that's just me.)

While I am usually the LAST person to rely on a celebrity to back up an argument, in the wake of the big banking/Wall Street debacle a few years ago (they're apparently doing a movie on some aspect of it) the actor James Woods was recently quoted in a fluff news story in a way that similarly struck me: he said something like "These people aren't required to be ethical, only legal."

This transparency and permanency of the internet is actually working in my favor right now; a very good friend recently died, and I've been researching his career in preparation for the various inevitable memorial services and whatnot. Thus far I can't find a single person through the years who has said a seriously negative word about him on the internet. And this is in an industry wherein people in his position are the regular butt of jokes.

I think it's only fair to expect at least SOME crankiness and/or dirt (he did a fairly public job in a fairly public industry), but there's been nothing. Instead the man I knew shines through even more powerfully--a good guy who went out of his way to be helpful and supportive of others. This is going to be *HIS* permanent legacy, thanks to the unblinking eye of an unforgiving internet.

I compare my recent findings with some of these poor, impoverished souls you frequently profile on your blog, and I maintain this whole written-in-ink aspect is a GOOD thing. Just not-so-good for those who choose to change their stories as often as their underwear.

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:08:00 AM  
Anonymous hhH said...

Just seen Obama flubbing the toast with the queen.
First my coffee cup froze midway to my hanging open mouth as I reeled at the florid homily. Did he just really say all that?
Fuck me! He did!
Then when he cocked up the toast, or rather got cut short, I was just pounding my desk.
It was great seeing him give some extra chin-stick-out to cover it all.
This is turning out to be a great visit, I'm glad you sent him over, thanks!

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:52:00 AM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

HHH, I am proud that my country provides such rollicking entertainment for our neighbors on the other side of the pond. (Interesting history lessons you've provided, too... 'tis always great to have your perspective.)

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Mojo, first of all, I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. It sounds like he really WAS a good guy. As for the lot of scalawags, scoundrels, and rapscallions who populate my blog... well, they may indeed change their stories as often as they change their underwear, but they still manage to hook a lot of gullible fish with those ever-changing stories. So, while the Interwebz may be transparent, more or less, such transparency doesn't seem to put much of a dent in some of the scams.

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous hHh said...

Remember, Connie, Heart of Darkness was set in the empire before it became Apocalypse Now.

Both my grandfathers served in the empire in India and Pakistan before it was Pakistan.

My Dad was packed off to Yemen when it was Aden, for one of the final conflicts on imperial territory.

Bringing civilization to the barbarous, see?

For a certain fee.

The speechifying has been exquisitely hypocritical, disenfranchising for the people, and at right angles to reality.

Was it all a super smooth bluff?

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

It all just makes me want to quote Leonard Cohen -- yet again: "History is a needle/for putting men asleep/anointed with the poison/of all they want to keep."

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Hhh said...

That's a good one innit?

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:42:00 PM  
Blogger Kathryn Price said...

Can I just say that JNL and her associates look like doofuses wagging their butts on those ab roller pros? And she's being crucified because she is asked a few reasonable questions about her unreasonable claims? I hate to be a stickler since I enjoy using language creatively and in a sometimes hyperbolic manner myself but crucifixions were brutal executions carried out by the Roman empire. Being asked a few questions by a reporter doesn't come close. But I guess if Joe can call himself the Buddha of the Internet, why not JNL consider herself crucified because she is asked about her claims? Perhaps she's the Jesus of the Internet? Salvation for the abdomens of the masses?

I'm going to attract a Phantom Mastermind session with Joe. I just gotta know what he can say during a car ride and dinner that's so valuable it's worth 5K. If it's anything like the content of those goofy messages he sends to my inbox almost daily, I'm going to ask for my money back. I hope Joe can get me some nice vegetarian chow for that price, and a glass of wine. I'm assuming the price of dinner is included in the 5K? Uh-oh, better check the fine print on that...

Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:17:00 PM  
Anonymous disillusioned said...

I have it on good authority that Queenie likes a tipple of 'mother's ruin' topped up with Dubonnet and is not fond of sherry at all.

O'Bama, (as well as finding his apostraphe and his Oirish accent on this trip) claimed that his grandfather was a cook for the British Army and delicately omitted any mention of prison and torture in MauMau times--the dreaded MauMau were the bogeymen of my childhood in far-flung colonial outposts.
As the inventors of the concentration camp in the Boer wars and trainers of torturers for just about every despot since, you have to admit that we Brits can still show the newcomers a thing or two about running an empire.


Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:05:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

Kathryn, the dinner is supposedly included with the RR rides (or was, anyway), although your air fare and accommodations are up to you to cover. But I'm not sure if he's still doing the RR rides. As BBF pointed out above, he hasn't really been promoting them lately. However, he's still actively promoting his Miracles Coaching scheme, so maybe if you have a few thousand bucks to throw away in a Utah boiler room you can sign up for that and hope for the best. Dinner not included.

And you're completely on target about JNL being a whiner just b/c ABC wanted a few straight answers. Crucifixion, my a--.

Friday, May 27, 2011 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous hhh said...

See, that's absolutely true, Dis.
Suddenly, the BBC is saying that O'bama's dad was in the British army and not mentioning the much more interesting bit about the torture and terrorism.
Anyone caring to look into it will see that Mau Mau was a term made up by the British, and not a self defined group. The parallels with Al Q., are striking.

A quick read of the history of the British East India Company will show that corporate rule and preferential contracts nothing new either.

I totally agree that the British are the past masters at empire building. You will even see Brzezinski's eyes glowing in unspoken admiration at how a soggy little island ruled half the world. Of course, this was often because the natives were not too fussed either way about who ruled them, which made it a bit easier.

I say we start massing troops on the Canadian border and help bring some order to the colonies. They were never really serious about all that consitution stuff anyway.
We could at least stop them playing rounders and give them a man's game like cricket instead.

Friday, May 27, 2011 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

LOL, Dis, good to see you here, and thanks for the link. I appreciate your (and HHH's) perspectives.

Friday, May 27, 2011 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous HhH said...

Empire, see, Schama doesn't gloss it over.


And a wonderful Tory map of the world...


Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:13:00 PM  
Anonymous mojo said...

Oooooh! Ooooh! Am I too late? I just thought of this one on the ride home:

"Crucifixion? Good. Out that door, line on the left, one cross each. Next? Crucifixion? Good. Out that door, line on the left, one cross each."

Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:37:00 PM  
Blogger Cosmic Connie said...

HHH: Thank you for the visuals (I think).
Mojo: Of course you're not too late. It's NEVER too late to join in any discussion on this Whirled.

Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Schirmer has turned to preaching about God because thats all he's got left now and who questions that? Perfect world for him.

Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:15:00 PM  

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