Showing posts with label GIN Intervenors. Show all posts
Showing posts with label GIN Intervenors. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 11, 2014

SciWINtology: One step closer?

As serial scammer Kevin Trudeau cools his heels in jail, awaiting his March 17 sentencing on criminal contempt charges and waiting out Judge Robert Gettleman on the civil contempt thing that has him caged at the moment, the struggle for the remains of his biggest scam, the Global Information Network (GIN) continues. Ohio GIN member Perry Kiraly and his Shimkos, whose motion to intervene in the civil case was denied on January 30, are going ahead with the court part of their Plan B. Previously they had legally established an alternate club, the World Information Network FDN, or WIN. And now, according to Perry, the Shimko is preparing an appeal. Yesterday evening, February 10, Perry sent out a brief update, with attachments that he had sent with previous updates. He urges his readers to read all of the attached documents again... and then again... and then again.

And then again, just for good measure. He asks his readers to keep in mind that Each. Word. Was. Carefully. Selected.

Smells like Scientology! And/or other manipulative, coercive varieties of word-flinging. Given that Perry's biggest champion (besides the Shimkos) in this whole Intervention-and-beyond phase has been
Scientology fan Yon Cole, I don't think I'm too far off base for continuing to harp on this. Let me remind you again of this passage from Perry's February 3, 2014 SWGF update, shared on this blog post:
WIN knows where to acquire and has access to the highest level materials which enable one to be happy, and free in ways most couldn’t possibly imagine ...And WIN can truly provide those higher level materials which will pick up where others before us have left off. And enhance the levels others have since passed through.
For more about that, see my previous blog post.

Anyway, here is the February 10 update.


From: Perry Kiraly

Date: February 10, 2014 at 9:28:30 PM EST
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: SWGF Update 02-10-14 Appeal in Process

SWGF Update: PERRY KIRALY

February 10, 2014

Dear SWGF Supporters,
This update is to inform you that Mr. Shimko is in the process of preparing the appeal. Its completion and filing will soon follow. Accompanying the appeal will be a motion for injunction to prevent the Receiver, pending appeal, from continued interference with, or use of, GIN members paid in dues, fees, and cash on hand which currently amounts to approximately $6,000,000.00!

Granting of this injunction and subsequent appeal will put GIN Members in the most powerful position to date to reclaim the assets of GIN that rightfully belong to them.

Attached are copies of the SWGF updates of 02-03-14, 02-05-14 and the Receiver’s reports issued on 01-28-14 and 12-19-13. If you haven’t read these documents read them now. Even if you have read these documents, consider re-reading them; for their importance to members in GIN is paramount in regard to the return of GIN assets.

Some of the many questions that are answered in these two attached SWGF updates of the 3rd & 5th are:

Why this appeal & injunction puts GIN members in a very powerful position to compel the return of GIN’s assets which includes the Intellectual property as well as cash.

Why buying assets from the Receiver is not a good option.

What the true mentality of the Receiver is -- using his own words.

The golden opportunity that has arisen from this situation in the creation of WIN for the club’s future.

How to stand with and contribute to this valiant effort by those that truly embrace the ideals upon which the club was founded.

Read the attached SWGF Updates carefully and thoroughly. Each word in them was carefully selected to deliver an important point. Then contribute to this battle for the club and its future.

Thank you,

Perry Kiraly*

*As a post script to this update, let me make it clear that I am a citizen of the United States of America and have exercised my 1st Amendment right to express my opinion herein. I am not a lawyer and nothing in this update/opinion should be construed as legal advice. The information herein is my personal opinion and provided solely for educational purposes. The opinion expressed in this update is not meant to suggest or encourage any course of action without consulting with an attorney or one licensed to practice law. Everyone must evaluate and make up their own mind on any course of action they take.
The important message is that you need to send money to continue to feed the Shimkos.

If you need to get up to speed on some of those documents Perry mentioned, you can find what you need on this Whirled. Not only do I have the February 3rd and 5th SWGF updates, but I also have links to relevant court docs, including the receivers' reports. Here are those links:


That's it for now... stay tuned. Meanwhile, if you have nothing better to do, I want you to read this blog post again. And again. And again. Then read it backwards. Then print it out and read it upside down. Or stand on your head to read in onscreen -- same difference, except the blood will go to your head. Then print it out and hold it up to a mirror and read it again. Really think about what each word means. If you discern any hidden messages, let me know.


Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Kevin Trudeau update: GINtervenors reply with fail-whale of a document, as Loony C makes more daft predictions


While serial scammer Kevin Trudeau sits in a cage in Chicago's MCC awaiting his sentencing on the criminal contempt charge (said sentencing has reportedly been moved to March 17, 2014, though I still have seen no docket entry to verify this) [see update below. ~CC], the paper shuffling continues in the civil case. As expected, a document was filed yesterday, January 20, by GINtervenors Perry Kiraly and gang's lawyers, the Shimkos, with the unwieldy title of, "Intervenor's Reply to FTC's Opposition to Intervenor's Motion to Intervene."
 
Holy
Busy Prepositions, Batman! That's a whole lotta "to's" in one title.

Here is a direct link to the document. If you don't feel up to reading it at the moment, you have the option of just settling back and letting me blab on about it for a while. Or you can go do something useful. I won't be offended.

As you know if you've been keeping up here and/or on Facebook, I've been snarking about Perry being a drama queen, but when you read the document it is clear that Perry's Shimkos are drama queens too. The doc starts right off accusing the FTC of engaging in sturm und drang in its statement of opposition to the motion to intervene (filed on 20 December, 2013). I assume that this is a fancy-shmancy way of declaring that the FTC's opposition was a tad overwrought. The usage of sturm und drang in this context seems to be a tad overwrought too, but I digress.

Click to enlarge. A close-up of the page
that the fail-whale is holding in its mouth
in the graphic above.

The Shimko argues so passionately, almost as if he really believes what he is arguing, and it must be said again that I am not a qualified lawyer-ish person so I don't know the legal fine points, but it still seems to me that this document is totally missing the point, if I may err on the side of egregious understatement. Even though it seems that at least the Shimkos are finally trying to clarify why they believe that Perry and gang have "standing" in this case despite serious GIN ownership issues, it also seems that they are failing miserably. Perhaps the Shimkos just need to go back and read the hundreds and hundreds of pages of court docs that seem to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GIN is owned by Katie (or, rather his wife, who now seems to be hiding out in Ukraine), and controlled by Katie. Therefore it was and is part of the receivership.

It's not that I blame the Shimkos for being confused. All of Katie's business affairs were set up to be confusing. But it seems that a lawyer should have a better understanding of these things. Or maybe I'm the dense one and just not reading things correctly. If so, I am in good company because the FTC lawyers are equally dense, so I don't feel so bad.

The Shimko also takes umbrage at the FTC's declaration, in their opposition to the motion to intervene, that the GIN MLM was a pyramid scheme and thus illegal, and therefore the Intervenors themselves are/were pyramid scheme participants. I wrote about that on this December 22 post. For now the point is moot because the MLM part of GIN has been suspended, but it appears to me that the Shimko was distorting and misrepresenting the FTC's declarations. To begin with, he accused the FTC of calling the Perry and his fellow Intervenors "ponzi scheme participants." Actually, no. The FTC called them "pyramid scheme participants." There is a difference between a Ponzi scheme and a pyramid scheme.

On the other hand, the FTC was a bit snarky about Perry and his pals, as reflected in the title I gave my December 22 post. And that hint of snarkiness opened the door for the Shimko to be dramatic and accuse the FTC of waging an ad hominem attack on his client. In any case, the court will ultimately be the one to decide on the legality or illegality of the GIN MLM.

* * * * *

When I read this latest court document, one of the first things that struck me was that it seemed to contradict Perry's and one of his Shimko's clear implications in recent communications that they are ready to give up the ghost with GIN. But then I thought, "Hey, maybe they are simply trying to keep their options open and get in the last word as they are legally allowed to do --- or rather, the second to the last word." As I just mentioned, the court has the final say on all of this stuff (unless of course there are appeals). Presumably major decisions will be made on January 30, when the next court hearing is scheduled.

At any rate, Perry's latest updates sent in the wake of that filing indicate that he and his pals are indeed going full speed ahead with their new club, the World Information Network, or WIN. More on that in a moment.

I noticed too that this latest court document is much more of a direct attack on the receiver than was the original motion to intervene (even though from the beginning the intervention was listed as being specifically against Robb Evans & Associates, LLC (the receiver)). Of course that is understandable, considering all of the missives that have flown back and forth since November 18 (
when the motion to intervene was filed). It appears that once the Shimkos detected that they really didn't have a place at the negotiating table, as they had apparently believed originally (or at least had communicated to their client), they changed their tune.

As I have also mentioned before, it seems that in the past couple of months, a whole new meme has grown up around the receiver being the real "GIN destroyer," as opposed to others who have claimed that title for themselves. Perry and some of his fellow GINtervenors have gone on and on about how the club was so fine until the receiver took over with his bad vibes.
As I noted in my previous post, even Katie's former marketing director Peter Wink, and Katie's former b.f.f. Leonard Coldwell, have been ragging on the receiver for a few months -- at least since September of last year. Much more recently, Peter even wrote that it is the receiver who destroyed GIN.

But I think that by now, many of us know who the real GIN destroyer was and is: Katie himself. With the help of his professional asset planners, he created GIN and at the same time -- either consciously or simply through his own arrogance and greed -- he planted the seeds of its destruction, nurturing those seeds from day one. The FTC and receiver deserve the lion's share of the rest of the credit (or blame, depending upon your perspective) for destroying GIN.

I noticed too that in the court doc, the Shimko snarks about the receiver letting the FTC do the real work in crafting the opposition to the motion to intervene, with the receiver merely filing a brief "me-too" document at "the eleventh hour." I feel obligated to point out that the Shimko also waited until past the eleventh hour to file his reply to the opposition. As I have mentioned a few times, the reply was due by January 17 (according to the civil case docket), and yet it was filed on January 20. This may not matter, and the Shimko did tell Perry in advance that he would have a reply filed by January 20. But unless the deadline really is NBD, it seems that the FTC and receiver could make a thing of it, and the court could decide that the document was filed too late.

I think I understand why attorneys on both sides wait until the eleventh hour to file in cases where pertinent info surfaces nearly every day, but the point is that the Shimko had no room to snark about this point.

The document contains several boring case precedents, as court docs invariably do. Precedents are like the soggy vegetables on your plate when you're a kid -- good for you, and prolly necessary for a balanced diet, but not nearly as interesting as the meat or the dessert. But I found one of the listed case precedents to be amusing, and so did my pal Tim Donohoe, who wrote:

Let's hope he [the Shimko] takes this argument to its logical conclusion.

[Quoting from the court document]
"The Receiver’s actions in cancelling
[GIN] events is akin to the claimed injury in Japan Whaling Ass’n v. Am. Cetacean Soc’y, 478 U.S. 221 (U.S. 1986) wherein it was held that plaintiffs therein undoubtedly 'alleged a sufficient injury in fact in that the whale watching and studying of their members would be adversely affected by continued whale harvesting."

What he really means is that while GIN is being picked to death, all the ex gin scammers are out scamming all the whales, leaving nothing left for GIN's upper levels.
Yeah, that sounds about right. Great cetacean, Shimkos! I mean, great citation.
Here's a close-up shot of the citation (and cetacean) we're talking about, so you can get a better idea of the context.

Of course you probably need to read the court doc in its entirety, if you're interested, so you can make up your own mind about what's going on. And you really should read the document, because despite my snarking and my general cynicism about GIN and any attempt to form an alternative club, the GIN members did get screwed. They got screwed by Kevin and his cronies, though even at this late date some will not admit it. But I don't blame them for feeling that they are now being screwed by the FTC, the receiver, and the courts. And as snarkworthy as so many parts of this latest doc are, it does make the point that the real winners, income-wise, in this whole sorry saga are the lawyers and, more recently, the receiver.


* * * * *

Not surprisingly, Perry sent out an update in response to the latest court docs.
From: Perry Kiraly
Date: January 21, 2014 at 12:31:47 PM EST
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: SWGF/WIN Update 01-21-14 Motion Filed - WIN Launched

SWGF Update: PERRY KIRALY

January 21, 2014


Dear Fellow GIN Members,

This update contains the most important documents released to date. Documents that will affect the future of our club and the Members in many ways.

These documents were sent yesterday but are resent again today for four very important reasons. Read each of them carefully.

  1. The attached motion and accompanying declaration that was filed in the court on 01-20-14 will affect the future legal standing of all GIN Members and their rightful ownership of our club's property.
  2. The motion and attached updates bring crystal public clarity to the true intentions of Perry Kiraly and the SWGF, and Mr. Timothy Shimko (the attorney retained by Perry Kiraly and the many club Members and speakers backing the SWGF).
  3. The updates contain the Website address of the newly established legal entity by which our club will continue and build from this point on free from interference as the World Information Network Foundation LTD / or WIN See www.winfdn.com.
  4. The accounts are set up to process your credit cards or other forms of payment where 100% of the funds received will be used for the costs associated with the continuance and rebuilding of our great club.
Read each of the attached documents closely. Then act. The instructions of what to do now are in the updates.

Thank you,

Perry Kiraly
Items 1 and 2 are the court docs I've been yammering on about. As noted at the beginning of this post, you can read them here. Item 3 concerns recent communication, including a letter Perry sent yesterday to rally the troops and put a totally positive spin on the January 20 court docs.

At least it seems clear that Perry remains unmoved by the lame efforts of the IBMS Master's Society shills to get him to come on'a their house. He and the gang appear to be going full speed ahead with WIN. The nascent web site is simmering with its own sturm und drang, complete with lofty words and a pic of what appears to be something burning.

In all fairness I should note that the Shimkos and Perry do not have a monopoly on drama queendom and snide remarks. As noted above, the FTC's lawyers have similarly engaged, as have Katie and his legal team. That's the real reason I find these court documents so entertaining -- that, and the inescapable fact that I am easily amused.


Meanwhile, in other GIN scavenger circles...
You may have seen this email that went out to the GIN membership this past weekend from the fabled GIN Leadership Roundtable (LRT), whose names are finally revealed.
GIN LEADERSHIP ROUNDTABLE ANNOUNCEMENT

Dear GIN Members and Associates,
While we are still in the process of defining our priorities for the next few months, the Leadership Roundtable (LRT) Members would like to submit a collaborative, unified view to you, as a GIN club Member or Associate in good standing. The purpose of our letter is to make our position clear, and to communicate that we are fundamentally interested in the well-being of many, not the interests of a few.

First of all, who are we? The LRT consists of both of GIN’s previous Member Advisory Board and Affiliate Advisory Board Members that were voted on by membership, or appointed by the club Members who expressed interest in continuing to serve our club. Many of the nine of us have been in GIN since the onset of our club. We are Members that have shown our commitment to the club over the years in a number of ways. We are NOT a group that has been appointed by the Receivers, nor do we represent their views. We are NOT a board of directors, NOR are we self-appointed.

We, as a group of Members, are interested in the continuity, and ultimate thriving of our club, and are open to what changes may transpire after the club transitions. In keeping with the intent of GIN’s original Advisory Boards purpose, our desire is that your views and wishes are heard, and impact the direction that GIN takes. Since our priority is to keep the club’s principles and beliefs whole, and allow what GIN stands for to remain intact, we accept the challenge to assist and represent you, in the context of completing our commitment to our previous advisory board’s term. While we are not presently privy to most of the information at GIN Headquarters, our goal as leaders on the LRT is to achieve as much transparency and accountability to GIN’s Members and Associates as beneficially possible and as soon as possible.

It is apparent in our exchanges, both informally among each other, and during our formal inaugural January 9th meeting, that all the LRT Members feel love, respect, and trust for each of you . . . Members and Associates committed to our club. Each of us is genuinely interested, and united in achieving the well-being and continuity of this club. The respect we have for each other, and for the tenacity of our entire club community acting in good faith, remains a constant.

Until recently, there has not been any clarity on the potential "how" during the process of much change, over which none of us had any control. We believe and realize that the best and most viable option to ensure future growth and success of our club is for the Members and Associates to buy it from the Receivers. We are also interested in promoting hope, belief, and excitement for a future GIN owned, and run, by its Members. In the interest of keeping our club healthy and to encourage momentum, we support continuing to pay our monthly dues. Yes, we know some of the money may pay the Receiver’s expenses, but we choose to FOCUS ON WHAT WE WANT, knowing that the future is OURS to write. Any short term decisions can and will be revisited once we have control of the club, so please do not concern yourself with doom and gloom others may be preaching. Those of you who are familiar with the training and use of the words “Cancel, Cancel,” may want to use this to clear the rats out of your head.

Additionally, we as a group of nine committed Members and leaders, speak in a unified voice in stating we are not in general support of those among us who are propagating fear and loss. To those few individuals we say “CANCEL, CANCEL.” To quote from the Myth Busters, “I reject your reality and substitute my own.” The New Year will bring Hope, Life, and Love for GIN.

Again, buying the club is really a no-brainer. Starting over from scratch would be immensely time consuming and a huge and expensive undertaking. Without the basis and infrastructure in place, there would be a need to invest a substantial amount of time and energy to re-build, find, or create: a new Success Mastery Course, the IT infrastructure, the video webinars, the live seminars, the already trained staff, the vendors, the speakers, and on and on. While a degree of rebuilding will be necessary in whichever scenario the club membership chooses, our desire is to have the least amount of disruption in the interest of ensuring the stability and continuity of our club.

One of the outcomes of our January 9th meeting was to endorse the formation of a new website devoted to bringing our Members and Associates together in unity and make a bid to buy the club. We hope this will be accomplished in the next seven days. To reiterate, in keeping with the positive energy and communicative style the LRT wishes to convey, we want to make information available to you as soon as beneficially possible.

You are welcome to ask any questions you may have using the "Member Advisory" (note this is for Members only) section on the Online Community of the GIN Website, which had already been set up to provide feedback. If the answer is available (note that we do not have access to any financial or legal information of the club) and the question is positive in nature, we will do our utmost to answer as soon as possible. We will make available additional information, including a website financed by an LRT Member shortly.

We are grateful to our Chairman, Greg Kramer, for his ongoing commitment, tenacity, and love for our club. These characteristics have been displayed by each of the LRT Members, including our Co-Chair Bob Shontz. Note that LRT membership consists of three One-Star Platinums, a Member of GIN's speaker faculty, a Go-Getter, and many Inner Circle Members. All are Level VI Members or Level VI Candidates, and all were elected GIN Advisory Board Members.

Whatever the club’s overall Members collectively create, and whatever transpires, at this time the nine of us feel blessed to have the opportunity to work alongside each other, as a Member of, and in service to, our fine club. We thank you for your continued support and look forward to a great 2014!

Sincerely yours,

GIN Leadership Roundtable
Greg Kramer, Chairman
Bob Shontz, Co-Chairman
Marjorie Alayon
Nancy Ashley
JoAnn Brownell
Phil Catalano
Roevel Guzman
Jacques Patenaude
Eli Rook
Word has it that two folks who had been named to the LRT have already resigned their positions because they're tired of the b.s. Their names do not appear on this list. I guess they took another look at the drivel that's oozing out of the GIN offices and said, "CANCEL, CANCEL."

Coldwell the Maleficent
Meanwhile, Germany's answer to the late Johnny Carson's fortuneteller character
Carnac the Magnificent, Mocktor Loony Coldwell, is making predictions about the upcoming hearing on January 30. Here, unedited, is a January 16 prognostication:

Here is my prediction: on January fist the closing of Gin will be finalized. Many Gin staff and speakers will be personally indicted. Trudeau will never ever see the light of day again. St Patricks day will be just the beginning of the end for inmate # 18046036.
Ah, Loony, Loony. Schadenfreude is such an awful color on you. Stick to pink and aqua. But come to think of it, you wouldn't look bad in orange.

I believe that by "January fist" the little man actually meant "February first," but I could be wrong. Perhaps he is making some retro-prediction, or he is thinking of January 1, 2015. And maybe he is obsessed with fists for some reason. Come to think of it, that's not the first Facebook post in which he has talked about fists. I wonder why he is so interested in them.
This might explain things a little.

In a subsequent post on the same thread Loony wrote that he's taking bets about his predictions, and he brags about having all of the inside, behind-the-scenes knowledge (the knowledge that all of the "wannabe's" don't possess), and he also warns that more arrests are forthcoming. Here's a closer-up shot of that thread:

Since then, Loony has been busy on Facebook with more rants and opinions about the "big legal judgement [sic] day" that is coming. Naturally he listed the new Leadership Roundtable members as being conspirators to keep the "criminal organization" going on. He declares that the GIN shell is now "the perfect breading found [sic] for more potential crimes and fraud." (Screen shot below; from one of his rants earlier today, 21 January). It's not that I disagree with the contention that GIN is composed of lies and liars. That's a given. But when Loony talks about those issues, it's another pot-and-kettle deal.


That's it for now, Dear Ones. It's back to work on real, paying projects for me, but I will continue to strive to keep you updated.

Update, 24 January 2014: Docket entry was finally made on 22 January, 2014, regarding Katie's sentencing.





In other news, here's the new web site from one of the major GIN scavenger groups. This is the official home of GIN's new Leadership Roundtable, who have embarked on an earnest effort to raise funds to buy GIN and pay lawyers and so forth. Be sure to look at some of the "names" who have endorsed this effort. By the way, these folks have also adopted the phoenix as their symbol, though the image that appears on their web site now appears to have been borrowed from Google images. Hey, no biggie. Anyway, it looks as if we have dueling phoenixes: The GIN burning bird v the WIN burning bird.




Sunday, December 22, 2013

Kevin Trudeau's pyramid continues to crumble as FTC snarks at GINtervenors

SEE UPDATE AT THE END (after the PS)
~CC, 23 December 2013


While serial scammer Kevin Trudeau
continues his proxy prison ministry, allowing his long-time companion Janine Nubani Contursi to babble on the Facebooks about life lessons and miracles, the paper shuffling in his long, drawn-out civil case continues (Case number 1:03-cv-03904, Judge Robert Gettleman presiding). On December 20, 2013, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) filed its opposition to the November 18, 2013 motion by Ohio GIN member Perry Kiraly et al. to intervene in the case. In its statement the FTC calls the suspended-for-now MLM arm of Trudeau's Global Information Network (GIN) an illegal pyramid scheme. The first clue that the FTC is not going to be gentle on the Intervenors is in the main document's title:
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION’S OPPOSITION TO PYRAMID SCHEME
PARTICIPANTS’ MOTION TO INTERVENE


The "pyramid scheme" participants = Perry Kiraly and his fellow Intervenors.

Here is a direct link to the document and the exhibits -- all 256 pages.

Heck, I could have told all of 'em that GIN was a pyramid scheme. In fact I believe I first suggested it
back in... oh... 2009, when I first heard of GIN. I kind of mentioned it again in 2011. But then, I'm no credentialed expert.

To those who have been following (and swallowing) Perry Kiraly's
Stand With GIN updates, these documents may come as a little bit of a shock. After all, Perry made it sound as if the receiver's attorney and the FTC attorneys were quite sympathetic to the Intervenors' desires to take over GIN. But to the rest of us, particularly those who have been casually exploring the background of some of the Intervenors and their lawyers, the Shimkos, for the past two months, the lack of accuracy might not be such a shock. Background research or not, anyone reading the GIN Membership Agreements, which most of the Intervenors signed, could see that they had no legal ownership in GIN. It would appear that Perry may have been erring on the side of optimism in some of his reports and updates. Or maybe he was simply misled by his Shimkos. If so... bad, bad Shimkos.

The FTC called upon their senior economist,
Peter J. Vander Nat, Ph.D., who has been with the agency for 25 years and is an expert on MLMs and pyramid schemes. Dr. Vander Nat, unlike so many gurus of Scamworld (John Gray, Joe Vitale, Loony Coldwell), is what is known as a real Ph.D. His detailed analysis of GIN's pyramid-ishness is included in the exhibits accompanying this document. In their motion to oppose intervention the FTC cites Dr. Vander Nat's findings several times.

The Intervenors have until January 17, 2014 to reply to the FTC's opposition to their motion to intervene. Another hearing is scheduled for January 30 at 9:00 AM. At that time, presumably, the court will rule one way or the other. It's important to remember that the final decision will still be made by the court.



I am of course no legal expert, but from what I can see, both the FTC and Dr. Vander Nat make a very good case for GIN's MLM having been an illegal pyramid scheme. As noted above, the court still has to rule on this, of course. But Dr. Vander Nat has an excellent track record, at least according to him and to the FTC, who claim that to date no court has ever rejected his conclusion that an enterprise was a pyramid scheme.
 
The part of the latest court docs that details exactly why the FTC believes GIN is an illegal pyramid scheme is Doc 803-3, "Declaration of Dr. Peter Vander Nat" etc., supported by FRC PXC:1. It is part of that large doc I uploaded.
Here is the link again.

On page 2 Dr. Vander Nat goes into "The Meaning of a Pyramid Scheme." He also explains Ponzi schemes, which are clearly illegal in the US. Both his report and the FTC statement of opposition cite numerous case precedents, including the 40-year-old
Koscot case (involving old-school motivational huckster Glenn Turner) that first brought MLM dodginess to the public's attention in a big way. I have a three-quarters-finished blog post about Glenn Turner; I really do need to finish it.

Anyway, in his conclusion, Dr. Vander Nat says that in his opinion GIN's program fully meets the "Koscot test" for being a pyramid because "the firm offers substantial rewards for recruiting members without any requirement for retail sales; i.e., product sales outside the network."

And the FTC makes no bones about its contempt for the Intervenors:

In the latest obstacle to achieving consumer redress and concluding this matter, twenty-five participants in Kevin Trudeau’s Global Information Network (“GIN”) pyramid scheme (collectively, "the GIN Participants") seek to intervene—apparently because the Receiver halted their pyramid payments. For several reasons, however, their misguided motion is both legally meritless and factually baseless. First, because the GIN Participants neither own GIN nor have any right to unlawful pyramid payments, they lack a sufficient stake in this litigation to satisfy Article III standing requirements. Second, their motion is untimely because, through its attorneys, GIN knew about this litigation for nearly two years before anyone moved to intervene—after extensive litigation concluded, after the Court resolved the key factual issues, and after the Court created a receivership that the GIN Participants now seek to unravel.

Third, even if the motion were timely—and it is not—the GIN Participants still fail to satisfy the requirements of either Rule 24(a) or (b) because they lack any cognizable interest in this case, they raise no question of law or fact that has not already been litigated, and their intervention would prejudice the FTC substantially. If everyone involved with Trudeau’s machinations were permitted to intervene, there will be thousands of parties before the Court. It makes no sense to spend public resources and the balance of the Receivership Estate sorting through the mess that intervention will precipitate. In short, the interests of justice demand that the Court deny the motion.
The FTC also gets a little snarky about the Intervenors' MLM expert, Thayer Lindauer, who, by the way, wants to be "your network marketing attorney." Thayer will help you structure your MLM scheme to get around the regulators. But even Thayer thought GIN was operating an illegal pyramid scheme (and I'm sure he would be glad to make it a legal pyramid scheme, for a price). Here is a link to a page that contains Thayer's test about whether a company is an illegal pyramid scheme (for the record, Thayer thinks Herbalife is illegal too). And here is Thayer's discourse on "pyramid consequences," including his take on the ethical dilemmas faced by attorneys who advise MLM-ers.

But back to the court docs at hand. This is from Document 808-0, the FTC's statement of opposition to the motion to intervene:

D. The Pyramid Scheme Participants
Significantly, more than half of the twenty-five GIN Participants received payments from GIN for their “recruiting” efforts... In fact, their own alleged “expert,” Thayer Lindauer, opines that GIN operated as an illegal pyramid scheme:

My review of the current sales program of Global Information Network indicates that [it] was almost certainly operating as a pyramid promotional scheme as defined by various administrative decisions of the Federal Trade Commission under Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act.
That was an excerpt of a letter from Lindauer to Timothy Shimko, one of the Intervenors' lawyers.

The FTC statement continues:

The FTC’s pyramid scheme expert concurs. Specifically, economist Peter Vander Nat—arguably the country’s preeminent expert on pyramids—provides an expert report including thorough economic analysis. Dr. Vander Nat “conclude[s] that GIN is a pyramid scheme.”... Among other things, he opines that the overwhelming majority of GIN pyramid participants will lose money: GIN promotes its business opportunity as a “perpetual money-making machine.” In reality, it is a perpetual recruitment scheme that dooms the vast majority of the participants (well above 90%) to financial losses by the very design of the compensation plan...
But the FTC seems to have Perry and gang's numbers too (in more ways than one).
...Although almost everyone loses, a very few do not. Perry Kiraly, the lead proposed intervenor, made almost $48,000, and would stand to make more if the Receiver had not dismantled Trudeau’s pyramid...Several other GIN Participants who seek to intervene also made money, and stand to make more at the expense of lower-ranking members. Many others have not yet recouped their pyramid payments, but apparently hope to do so if Trudeau’s pyramid continues functioning...(as Dr. Vander Nat explains, for this reason, it is typical for middle-level pyramid scheme participants to want the pyramid to continue—so they can recover their “investment” from lower-ranking members... This is why the GIN Participants allege that they “benefit financially from their membership in [GIN] in the form of residual income paid to members for attracting new members”... and why they complain that the Receiver deprived them of their purported “rights to income disbursements...
This may not necessarily mean that Perry's gang or some other group has zero chance of acquiring GIN at some point in the near future and re-creating it as a "legitimate" club (and possibly a legit MLM). They have a Plan B in mind too, which Perry has indicated since he first started doing his Stand With GIN updates. In fact, that is supposedly why they've been working with Thayer Lindauer: to clean up GIN's MLM and start 'er up again.

But if the FTC has its way, the court will not recognize their right to act as Intervenors -- after all, as the FTC patiently explained, they were members, who signed membership agreements stipulating that they had NO ownership. Moreover, their "intervention" wasn't timely, according to the FTC. So if they have any chance whatsoever of making GIN their baby, they will more than likely have to find some other way besides "intervention."

Some of us have thought all along that they were fighting a losing battle with the "Intervenor" effort, but they did manage to get themselves added to the docket and have become part of the case. In other words, they weren't laughed out of court right off the bat. Still, my sense is that the court will agree with the FTC that the Intervenors have no ownership in GIN. But again, that doesn't mean GIN is completely dead... yet. Even so, it looks as if the well-intentioned folks who contributed to the Stand With GIN fund may have just been throwing their money away, as many did for years in GIN. But at least those Shimkos will have a little extra spending money.

Bottom line is that the FTC, with the help of their economist/MLM expert, have defined GIN's pyramid dodginess pretty accurately -- which is another nail but possibly not the final one if GIN can somehow be taken over, revived, and turned into a legal scam. Though Perry Kiraly's "Intervention" effort will probably fail, Perry and his pals are probably not going to give up. And there are no doubt other parties fighting for the remains of the moribund beast.

More popcorn, please.


PS ~ Self-proclaimed GIN destroyer Abe Husein is excited because he, Peter Wink and Loony Coldwell were mentioned in a March 2013 email from Kevin Trudeau to some of his cohorts. Katie apparently panicked and clumsily tried to do some damage control after ABC News showed up outside of his luxury digs in Zurich in March. It was apparently those "ambush journalists" who spooked Katie into trying to discredit some of his detractors. It's almost as if he didn't really realize what they were up to until he got shaken out of his complacency by ABC's visit. More than likely he was also inspired by his looming court cases and upcoming hearings and trial. But his main concern besides discrediting his detractors seemed to be to get tons of pro-GIN testimonials into the right hands. In fact, he seemed more concerned with getting those testimonials than with discrediting Abe, Wink, and Loony. Word has it that no one in the GIN offices actually embarked upon a campaign to discredit the Three Stooges, reasoning that the Stooges did their own self-discrediting better than anyone else ever could.

Here's a shot of the emails.

"Video testes from cruise"... that kind of sounds like he's talking about naughty movies. I'd heard that some of those cruises got a little wild... Well, Katie is not the world's best speller or punctuator.

Obviously any efforts at damage control that may have been made in the wake of the ABC "ambush" were ineffective; ABC aired their episodes of The Lookout,
one in May and a followup in August, with, it must be noted, a segment featuring Abe (but with no mention of Loony or Wink). I think that most journalists who have had any interaction with Loony or Wink, particularly Loony, can sense that showcasing them as sources would not be the best move, credibility-wise, for any news media outlet. (Peter did give a "press conference" after one of Katie's hearings, and some of the Chicago journos used some quotes from him, but that's about the extent of Peter's front-and-center exposure in this saga. I hear that some of the Chi-town journos think he is a little sleazy.)

The one major point that Loony, Peter, and Abe were and are correct about, of course, is that Trudeau is a scammer and GIN is a scam, which I've been saying for years. Where they are concerned it may be a pot-and-kettle situation, but they are correct about that one point and yes, they (particularly Abe) have earned themselves some media coverage for criticizing GIN and Katie.
I did find it interesting that Katie's fans talk about him taking the "high road" when it comes to dealing with his detractors, when his emails indicate that he so clearly did not want to take the high road. It's worthy of note, I think, that this is the way that most Scamworld gurus handle their critics, when ignoring them does not work: by trying to discredit them. Loony Coldwell has tried that with all of his critics, including me, of course -- this being just one example. In this case, Loony was totally making up lies about me (major fail in the discrediting effort), whereas if Katie's guys had wanted to discredit Loony and Wink and Abe, they would have had some legit info on which to draw. But Katie's own lack of credibility was kind of an issue, to say the least, and ABC had enough goods on him to neutralize any efforts to discredit sources. They obviously did their own research and digging.

And so the saga continues, with no neat and tidy endings in sight.


UPDATE 23 December 2013:
Perry Kiraly sent out another update today (actually the update is dated December 20, but the email has today's date). Apparently, after discussion with one of his Shimkos and with other GIN members, he has changed his tune about the receiver and now agrees with those who feel the receiver is interfering with and destroying GIN. The receiver has bad vibes and it's ruining the club, I tell you... ruining it! Here's a sample of what Perry wrote in his email:

Exposure to the Receiver's vibration is changing the vibration of our club and a few of the members have already succumbed. The recent claim of the Receiver of being assisted by members of the club (whom the Receiver refuses to identify and plans to make an advisory board of), is an ominous signal that such is occurring.  Are these members suffering from Stockholm syndrome?  Maybe, but it is sure that the presence of the Receiver and his minions are the culprits.
More details to come.


Other relevant Whirled links about MLMs and pyramids:
Out of this Whirled...
Here's more information about the difference between a "legitimate" MLM and an illegal pyramid scheme. Many activists argue that there really is little difference when it comes to results, because all MLMs are structured so that only the top few people ever make any significant money -- and they do so at the expense of hundreds of thousands of rank-and-file members.
http://www.dsa.org/ethics/internalconsumptionwhitepaper.pdf

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