- a jilted ex-lover/employee
- depraved Aussie journalists
- Satan
Foolish? Idealistic? Maybe. But that's not the point here. Warren, who is now trying to make a living as a life coach, says that David Schirmer was the closest connection to The Secret that there was in Warren's native Australia. He became Schirmer's spin doctor, a job that grew ever more difficult as rumors about his employer took on a life of their own. As time went by Warren kept seeing more red flags, but tried to ignore them.
Finally he couldn't ignore them anymore, and he eventually got so fed up he quit Schirmer's employ. Schirmer, however, is apparently spinning their separation in a different way, claiming to have fired Warren for various misdeeds. But who ya gonna believe? I'm more inclined to believe Warren.
Recently Warren spoke to A Current Affair reporter Ben Fordham. Here's the YouTube link to Part 6 of ACA's David Schirmer exposé. For the record, ACA tried to talk to Schirmer to get his side of the story, but Schirmer refused to talk to them.
Meanwhile, Schirmer is still thumping that Bible of his. Someone intercepted this recent communication on a chat forum:
David Schirmer said...Amen, Brother David...oops, I mean, Saint David. Sorry. (And no, I have no concrete proof that David Schirmer wrote that comment, but it is his style of writing, not to mention his creative spelling.)
I have been on the receiving end of...bullying tactics of gutter journalists and self-promotion egomainiacs [sic]. People like [he named two Aussie journos] are the scum of the earth and have no moral values beyond their own egos. They never do real research, they find a person that they think they can destory [sic] then create lie after lie to build their case, hidding [sic] behind the walls of solicitors [lawyers] and TV cameras. For all those people who have been attacked by these scum, stand tall in the truth, they will be brought to judgement eventually. "Greater is He who is in me (God) than he who is in the world (satan)."
So what's next for David Schirmer? Well, he still has quite a few significant legal issues and court cases in Australia that have yet to be resolved. But he has recently sold his home for $1.8 million (Australian dollars, which amount to a little over $1.4 million US), and there's a lot of speculation that he is making plans to move to the US in an effort to start over. He seems to have an ally Stateside – and no, I'm not talking about Joe Vitale, who was recently featured in Schirmer's Succeed Magazine. (Word has it that numerous other Secret stars no longer have anything to do with Schirmer and have been warning others to stay away from him too. Apparently Joe didn't get the memo in time to back out of the Succeed deal, but he should be fully aware by now.)
No, Schirmer's apparent ally is a minor asteroid in the Hustledork Solar System, Keith Leon, whom I've mentioned here a few times before. Keith claims to be a Relationship Master, and he recently published a book about finding your life purpose, Who Do You Think You Are? The book featured Schirmer, among many other New-Wage hustledorks (the Foreword was written by Jack "Chicken Soup" Canfield). If you look on the Events list on Keith's web site, you'll see that he's holding no less than eight events in November, three in December and even one in January 2009, starring himself and David Schirmer. Though no specific date is given for the January event, here's the blurb:
JANUARY 2009
"UNLOCKING The Secret to Success: Prosperity, Connection & Relationships"
David Schirmer, Keith Leon, Joe Vitale and another Secret Teacher TBA will speak at this powerful three day event. You do not want to miss it.
Los Angeles, CA
Pssst, Joe... You did say on your blog that you didn't know about the Schirmer connection with Succeed Magazine before it was too late. Well, it's not too late to back out of this one. If you've already done so, you'd better tell Keith to remove your name from his site.
You're welcome.
Judging by remarks on some other blogs I've seen, I know that some people are pretty bored with this whole Schirmer saga. But I also know that quite a few people claim to have been wronged by Schirmer and are waiting for justice through the courts.
Some of you may think I'm belaboring a point or beating a dead horse. Maybe so, but here's my thinking (and I know I've said this before, but it needs to be said again): If Schirmer has done even half of the things he's accused of, do we really want him here in the US?
And there's an even larger point, which I've also made here, but feel obligated to make yet again: Schirmer may be the one who got caught, but he's far from the only smarmy player on the New-Wage stage. He's merely an extreme symptom of what is wrong with the entire selfish-help industry.
That would have to be the ugliest most uncomfortable angry look in the guys face. No sweetness and light in that look, he was stung badly.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mother Connie for keeping on about this guy. I know he is only one of many but he did expose his willingness to be featured in the secret movie and by doing that he is allowing all of us to nit pick his past as much as we want to and we will.
ReplyDeleteWe will because he is making the claims not us and if you want to make such incredulous claims as this guy makes you sure want to be certain that you've dotted your I's and crossed your T's beforehand. I don't think he's that bright though and from this latest expose, I'm certain he's not.
My belief is that this guy saw the dollars well before the dollars saw him. It seems they had a very brief and less than joyful time together. I get the feeling that any dollar that came his way never stayed very long if you know what I mean. A bit like the holy light radiating in and through his pocket sucked out like a violent tornado.
I also think he's the type of guy that the authorities would be watching very closely right now because he's likely to have a little friend somewhere precariously hiding the few dollars he's managed to sneak away from this place to that in a twisted attempt to believe that noooooooone could pooooooossibly know what hes up to.
Sadly he's actually got kids too and a lot of them. So what will he do, rip them away from their friends so he can go hide somewhere and think the whole world wouldn't want to know where he is now. How the hell does a guy like this think he can possibly hide or hide anything now? He seems to love the limelight, he loves money, he has no clue how to be accountable and he actually seems completely clueless as to what he is really doing even to himself.
I know many people have brought this up heaps but doesnt he EVER think of anyone else but himself?????? It is actually as if he expects everyone to buy his story regardless of the copius facts out there.
We should start taking bets on who he'll do over next and I'm tipping his dearest and closest ally Keith Leon. Surely Keith Leon must have some reservations about his association when all the other teachers of the secret say hey hey ney ney to any association with Schirmer at all and its sure looking like that is the case.
He's sure to have an even worse hell of a time in the US than what hes getting in Australia. And for what its worth my opinion of Keith Leon isn't too high either. If he associates with people who are known and charged offenders of the law then you have got to question his motives and his credibility too.
Perhaps I should start reciting part of the good book here because its about when these guys start preaching, when their disciples are drugged in their self gratification and pathetic lies.
The likes of Schirmer doesn't have a hope in hell of being anyone of impact with the exception of being the biggest wanker in the secret...I think he'll need a hell of a lot more than luck in the US so let him come, he won't handle staying very long and we'll always know where he is.
I feel sad about the amount of people who have been affected by this one mans actions. I feel it is a bad reflection on the secrets underlying message.
ReplyDeletePeter, I have to agree with you about that look on his face. And actually, that photo was taken from last year's interview with the journo in New Zealand (the interview where Schirmer took refuge in the boy's room). No telling what his expression looks like now.
ReplyDeleteAnon 10:01 AM, thank you for your comments. You may be right about Schirmer's chances of success (or lack thereof) in the US. On the other hand, Americans have short memories. We'll just have to see how it unfolds...
ReplyDeleteKaren, you're right that Schirmer's actions seem to be a bad reflection on The Secret. On the other hand, if you've been following this blog, you may be aware that Secret producer Rhonda Byrne's actions have also reflected badly on The Secret and its message. Greed and deception all around.
ReplyDeleteMr Deceit himself, David Schirmer. Oh I believe the public hasn't seen a fraction of what that guy has been up to. Keep up the good work ratting on these bastards.
ReplyDeleteThe latest con from this guy was sent out...as usual...the hours before people were required to respond. He is marketing for a church now and no doubt hoping for recognition and kickbacks from the church. This has become nothing but laughable crap from someone who is proven to be a fraud. Its actually really funny watching his demise and just how desperate he has got.
ReplyDeleteLet me understand something, how do you have a guy who is being exposed as a fraud, deceit, cheat, liar, and whatever other names are coming up AND who has been charged by his fellow mate Proctor for misleading and deceptive conduct AND who has had to sell his house because he doens't have the money to pay his bills so therefore he lied about being a millionaire let along a multimillionaire suddenly become so god damned righteous that he expects the public to follow him?????????????????????
Knock me dead Fred, the guy is really deluded.
St David isn't such a saint after all. He's been caught cheating the system as they said his eyes were bigger than his stomach. He got greedy.
ReplyDeleteJudging by the remarks on all forums that don't belong to Schirmer and are not censored, the guys credibility is shot.
ReplyDeleteI am finding it absolutely hilarious watching the Schirmer saga. He made his bed but he is unwilling to lie in it and is trying to buck the system as much as possible. We all know what happens to people who do that. Its like a naughty defiant kid who just keeps on and on and on. In the end everyone hates the kid and no-one wants to be his friend. Not much different in this case really, pretty immature of Schirmer really makes you wonder what went on when he was a kid thats making him let it all out now.
ReplyDeleteShane said...
ReplyDelete"Mr Deceit himself, David Schirmer. Oh I believe the public hasn't seen a fraction of what that guy has been up to. Keep up the good work ratting on these bastards."
Thanks, Shane, I do plan to keep it up. I believe you are right and that more info will come out about Schirmer as time goes by. I also believe that "interesting" information will continue to be revealed about other selfish-help "gurus." I will certainly share things as I learn them!
Alan, I've seen some info about Schirmer's newest church-y scheme. He's really playing the Christian card heavily now. I plan to blog about it momentarily!
ReplyDeleteTonya said...
ReplyDelete"St David isn't such a saint after all. He's been caught cheating the system as they said his eyes were bigger than his stomach. He got greedy."
But he's still going strong... or trying to make it look as if he is. From my perspective, he's still committing blogworthy acts!
Anonymous 1:32 AM said...
ReplyDelete"Judging by the remarks on all forums that don't belong to Schirmer and are not censored, the guys credibility is shot."
Yeah, I think that for the most part you're right, but he's desperately trying to salvage what cred he has left, and as I noted above, I think he's playing the Christian card pretty heavily for that.
Anonymous 7:28 PM said...
ReplyDelete"I am finding it absolutely hilarious watching the Schirmer saga. He made his bed but he is unwilling to lie in it and is trying to buck the system as much as possible. We all know what happens to people who do that. Its like a naughty defiant kid who just keeps on and on and on. In the end everyone hates the kid and no-one wants to be his friend. Not much different in this case really, pretty immature of Schirmer really makes you wonder what went on when he was a kid thats making him let it all out now."
Astute observations, Anon. As it happens, Schirmer talks about his upbringing in a recent email that I'll be blogging about soon. Of course, he paints a wholesome image of a loving, church-going family.
All I can say is... More snark chum...yum!
This guys a moron!
ReplyDeleteI reckon there must be a few more than that list for this guy to blame. It seems he's now been removed from Keith Leons "favorites" list in fact he's probably been removed from everyones "favorites" list. Shows his depth of knowledge of the stuff he's attempting to talk about. And it looks like he has been faking it for years so he should have been expecting this result and he probably was. Thats probably why he fights it so much. There is noone to blame but himself and funny that he gets up on stage and talks about taking responsibility for our own actions but does not do that himself.
ReplyDeleteThis guys a moron - ditto!
ReplyDeleteAmazing suck your contacts dry and then spit on them when they squeal. Some secret!
Sigh... he's a stinker.
ReplyDeleteI know this from personal experience.
He is a taker, not a giver
He is a user, not a thinker...
According to ASIC Schirmers companies have all but disappeared. His wife is out working for a living and he is doing bidness with ACN. As of last week he was recruiting wannabe Schirmer funders but only those with an absolute desire to make him rich. Schirmer ain't too bright it appears. Maybe he should change his name because the only people slightly interested in him seem to be those who have likely never met the guy in person. ACN sound like a good company to screw over. Just wonder how long it will take.
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