tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post9143221281396117056..comments2024-02-11T15:41:08.332-06:00Comments on Whirled Musings: Council or Cartel? You decideCosmic Conniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-51480937404465488792012-04-27T10:40:08.270-05:002012-04-27T10:40:08.270-05:00Good to see you here again, RevKev. FYI, I have se...Good to see you here again, RevKev. FYI, I have seen identical comments on Salty Droid's blog but have published them here anyway. Since I am not a Christian, I don't see the issue of blasphemy as you define it here as a huge concern, but I understand your point. The larger point, I think, is that the PSI people are scammers, and that should outrage all of us, regardless of our religious beliefs or lack thereof. Thank you as always for your insights.Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-13623392911267959822012-04-26T13:19:16.236-05:002012-04-26T13:19:16.236-05:00Musings from a former PSI facilitator - The Rev Ke...Musings from a former PSI facilitator - The Rev Kev<br /><br />Did anyone notice that the PSI brass had all of the manuscript chapters deleted from the PSI is a copy of EST and the Forum thread at Pissed Consumer.com?<br /><br />What are they afraid of? Tom Willhite clearly writes "You are God" on the last page numbered 166.<br /><br />Read the Book of Job and ask yourself the same question God asked Job: Where were you when I created the heavens and the earth?<br />Job did not create the heavens and the earth and we can't either. Only God can. We are not God. <br /><br />Tom Willhite was terribly misguided.<br /><br />Tom was foolishly disrespecting the risen Lord Jesus Christ when he wrote these blasphemous words.<br /><br />At the annual convention of the Assemblies of God church last year, PSI Seminars was discussed and the TDW PSI manuscript was brought to light and analyzed. It was decided that believers in Jesus Christ should not partake of this hypocrisy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-24959851680240348002012-03-22T15:20:12.016-05:002012-03-22T15:20:12.016-05:00I'm Rev Kev, a former PSI facilitator who came...I'm Rev Kev, a former PSI facilitator who came to know the real JC and shucked off the phony-money-grubbing teachings of PSI.<br />The teachings of PSI Seminars, Thomas D. Willhite and his Co-Founder wife Jane are pure plagiarism from previous self-help, money-snatching frauds. Jane C. Willhite, or JC as she refers to herself, is a founding member of the Transformational Leadership Council.<br /> <br />Tom Willhite didn’t have a single original thought: his experience on the Golden Gate Bridge of having a vision of “First Day – Last Day) described in his First Day-Last Day lecture, was stolen from Werner (John Paul Rosenberg-EST-Forum-Landmark Education) Erhard.<br /><br />All of the “TLC” people are in bed together and have been for years. Stewart Emery, a friend of Jane’s, was the President of EST way-back-when. At the end of Stephen Pressman’s book, he stated that EST was “all about nothing . . . the emperor had no clothes.” Nothing for poor paying saps and everything for Werner and Jane.<br /><br />William (deceased) Penn Patrick, Werner (took-the-money-and-left-the-country) Erhard, Stewart Emery, John Assaraf, Jack Canfield, Jane Willhite, and the list goes on and on . . . are in it for the money . . . not to actually help someone become more successful, educated, thinner, and richer!<br /><br />John Assaraf is speaking at PSI's Principia again this late summer at The Ranch along with Bob (same-old-sheet) Proctor. Bob Proctor's January interview with Dori Locke was filled with dirty words. It can be heard on the iTunes podcasts.<br /><br />Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen did not write the book "Chicken Soup for the Soul"! It was a compilation of other people's stories that they snatched for free. To get your story in the book you had to sign a notice that you could not collect money from them. They started out in the Founders District of Toastmasters International in Orange County CA. They went everywhere to hawk that book . . . even gas stations! <br /><br />All of these Transformational Learning Council people (it's by invitation only) all sit around and laugh at all of these poor saps who shell out big bucks to attend these "self growth" "self-help" and "maximize your potential" seminars and classes. It's religion without God!<br /><br />PSI Seminars are way overpriced . . . if they were really interested in “transforming people” they would give it away!<br /><br />Someone outed her on her lack of compassion for the kids in her own backyard of Lake County CA.<br /><br />She's cheap and won't help poor kids out in Lake County. Let's see her peel off some money to really "make a difference in poor people's lives!"<br /><br />If you've been to PSI Seminars, you got taken for a ride by the manipulative expert, JC Willhite. Funny thing is . . . the real JC as in Jesus Christ, is the real transformer of people into Godly leaders. And, I’m not talking about “religion” or “money-grubbing-churches-priests-pastors-ministers” . . . I’m talking about getting to know The Lord in your private space, by yourself and studying his teachings yourself. I’m talking about clearing out your bullshit and getting rid of your past actions that “hang you up” so you can’t move forward . . . lay them at the foot of the cross and let The Lord love you, forgive you, and die for you so you won’t beat yourself up any longer! Isn’t it funny that people can pray, worship, create, and perform positive acts in His name and it doesn’t cost them $25,000?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-79280568639002203822012-03-11T15:54:41.233-05:002012-03-11T15:54:41.233-05:00The complete PSI Seminars Life Success Manuscripts...The complete PSI Seminars Life Success Manuscripts are posted on the pissed consumer blog. It starts from the bottom up. The books of Tom Willhite’s bible start with The Book of: Beginnings, Attitude, Desire, Consciousness, Mastermind, Wealth, Wisdom, Fears, Leadership, Power, Liberty, and end with Visions. This is the leather bound book Jane hands out after one completes PSI 7 or as it's now called The Life Success Seminar.<br /><br />The concepts are harmless. PSI runs into trouble with Tom's exclamation with "You are God" on the last page of his book. This is especially disturbing because Tom claimed to be a Christian. If he hadn’t claimed to be a Christian, he would appear as a hypocrite.<br /><br />The Christian Research Institute as well as the Dallas Theological Seminary labeled this writing as blasphemous. Some PhD student refuted Tom's bible line-by-line against the real Holy Bible. There are other discrepancies with Tom's instance that "Jesus did what he wanted to do" omitting the fact that he was following and fulfilling his heavenly father's will. Maybe the dissertation will become a popular book someday to set the record straight.<br /><br />Here is an excerpt from the Dallas Theological Seminary dissertation:<br />In the Book of Consciousness on page 51 . . . Tom states “He did what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. - Well, this is technically true . . . but when talking about The Lord, Jesus obeyed Abba, his Father in heaven because he was there in the beginning. <br /><br />See John 17:4 - I brought glory to you here on earth by doing everything you told me to do. And, Luke 2:49 - “But why did you need to search?” he asked. “You should have known that I would be in my Father’s House.”. . . Jesus obeyed his earthly parents (Mary and Joseph) and His Father in heaven. <br /><br />Matthew 3:17 - And a voice from heaven said, “This is my son, and I am fully pleased with him.”<br />Mark 1:11 - And a voice came from heaven saying, “You are my beloved Son, and I am fully pleased with you.”<br />Luke 3: 22 - and the Holy Spirit descended on him in the form of a dove. And a voice from heaven said, “You are my beloved Son, and I am fully pleased with you.”<br />2 Peter 1:17 - And he received honor and glory from God the Father when God’s glorious majestic voice called down from heaven, “This is my beloved Son; I am fully pleased with him.”<br /><br /> . . . in a nutshell: Jesus pleased and obeyed Abba, his Father as a member of the Trinity . . . all three persons of the Trinity are alive and active. God is one, yet in three persons at the same time.<br /><br />John 15:24 - If I hadn’t done such miraculous signs among them that no one else could do, they would not be counted guilty. But as it is, they saw all that I did and yet hated both of us - me and Abba, my Father. . . . Jesus warned us about the world’s hatred towards Him and His believers. <br />Here is what Tom writes on page Page 55 . . . I have said that this concept . . . the I AM concept . . . is the foundation of all the concepts. Now from the Dallas Theological Seminary dissertation: I AM is God’s personal name. See Exodus 3:13-15. God called himself I AM . . . a name describing his eternal power and unchangeable character. Hebrews 13:8 says that God is the same “yesterday, today, and forever.” Exodus 3:14 - I AM who I Am . . . or, I Will Be What I Will Be.<br /><br />Jesus also used the title I AM for himself. See John 4:26 . . . “I am the Messiah!” And, John 8:58 . . . Jesus answered, “The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!” or, “Truly, truly, before Abraham was, I am.” – This is one of the most powerful statements uttered by Jesus. When he said that he existed before Abraham was born, he undeniably proclaimed his divinity. Jesus applied God’s holy name to himself. It does not apply to humans exclaiming that they are God.<br /><br />I think in a time of crisis one reaches out to a higher power (God) other than themselves and not within to their finite self. Just my guess. Or, is Jane’s granddaughter going to go around saying that she is God?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-17404767020926938852012-02-22T00:05:09.620-06:002012-02-22T00:05:09.620-06:00John Assaraf spoke at PSI Seminars Principia last ...John Assaraf spoke at PSI Seminars Principia last year. Ever since OneCoach went belly up, their marketing man, Scott Allen, moved over to PSI Seminars and is now the vice-president of marketing.<br /><br />Scott Allen wrote psiseminarstruth.com, or the truth about PSI Seminars. The principals, Jane Willhite, her daughter Jenessa Helene Willhite Meyers, and old lady Ernestine Fischer, all donate to the Democratic Party, Barbara Boxer, and Hillary Clinton. Since this is public knowledge on the Huffington Post, PSI is trying to back peddle by saying that the money made from the seminars doesn't just go to the Democrats.<br /><br />Tom Willhite's tutor, William Penn Patrick, owner of pyramid scheme Holiday Magic Cosmetics made an unsuccessful run for the Republian nomination for the govenor of CA being beat by Ronald Reagan in 1966. My how the world has turned with the PSI brass assuaging their guilt and donating to the Democrats over the millions they make from their profit making venue known as PSI Seminars.<br /><br />Jane Willhite sent out a personal message to all PSI graduates urging them to sign up for PSI7 graduate Lanny Morton's Six Minutes to Success. Now people are losing their shirts from being involved with this. Lanny and Deena Morton are being sued by Bob Proctor who ownes "Six Minutes to Success" leaving the graduates holding the bag.<br /><br />So yes, John Assaraf of The Secret speaks at PSI Seminars Principia. It costs $25,000 to take all of the PSI classes: The Basic, PSI 7, Men's or Women's Leadership Seminars, PLD (Pacesetter Leadership Dynamics) seminar, and Principia (where all of the top brass from the new thought crowd speaks).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-66357555058426962772012-02-13T10:22:46.864-06:002012-02-13T10:22:46.864-06:00Hey, Anon Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:51:00 PM: Th...Hey, Anon Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:51:00 PM: Thanks for pointing out PSI (and for the recent comments on Salty Droid's blog too, if that was you). I hadn't yet turned my loving attention to this devious cultish purveyor of LGAT madness. It dismays but does not surprise me to see that they are attempting to reach their tentacles into the minds and hearts of the younger generations as well as the so-called grownups.<br /><br />But I would like to know if they really are still scheduling folks such as John Asshat... I mean Assaraf? Even after his famous bankruptcy? And what about Bob Proctor, whose current legal and financial battles are the stuff that snarky blog posts are made of? Or were you just naming past featured speakers?<br /><br />Anyway, it's clear to me that this is just another money grab, playing to the elitist mindset of those in the "transformational" (read: New-Wage/selfish-help/McSpirituality) industry. Icky, icky, icky.Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-65967818679399508672012-02-12T17:51:22.604-06:002012-02-12T17:51:22.604-06:00Jane C (JC) Willhite is also a founding member of ...Jane C (JC) Willhite is also a founding member of TLC. She has a goog gig going up at High Valley Ranch in Clearlake Oaks CA known as PSI Seminars. People are encouraged to sign up for the next, then next, and even next expensive course. It costs about $25,000 to attend all of the PSI Seminars courses. The money goes to her, Jane, and her daughter Jenessa Helene Willhite Meyers and Jen's husband Jeffrey Widdecombe Meyers, plus long time JC friend, Shirley Hunt.<br /><br />Pat Allen, Bob Proctor, Joe Vitale, John Asseraf, Ariel Ford, Jack Canfield, Mark Victor Hansen, Byron Katie, Lisa Nichols, Stewart Emery, Susan McNeal Velasquez, Berny (Bernard) Dohrman - he owns CEO Space, and Shelli Hunt all speak at the big late summer Principia event known as "Jane's Party" to ramp up everyone's vibrations to a higher level.<br /><br />The courses run on free labor known as "staffing" or "giving back."<br /><br />Many of the facilitators have tried to make it out on their own and realize they don't have what it takes to make it and run back to PSI such as Tim O'Kelley, Chuck Morrison, and Kathy Quinlan-Perez.<br /><br />The only successful facilitator to make it out on his own was the late Brian Klemmer.<br /><br />Brett Williams and Jeff Rogers attempts to set up trainings outside of the PSI network went poof.<br /><br />PSI offers a Kid's course, Teen Experience facilitated by Annie Yoder, PSI 7, Men's and Women's Leadership courses facilitated by Kathy Quinlan-Perez and Shirley Hunt, and Principia. Front and Center is a public speaking and presentation course to develop new crops of facilitators. Front and Center - Jenessa uses her theatrical training from her USC theater degree to teach the breathing class.<br /><br />The ranch in Clearlake Oaks hosts "Camp Choice" every summer for wayward Oakland CA kids to do the ropes course and get some higher thinking training.<br /><br />Jimmie McMahon hosts "Camp Be It" for budding singers, actors, and songwriters every summer too. The kid's parents pay several thousand dollars for them to go make a demo tape, do the ropes course, and learn some higher thinking skills along with developing their entertainment career goals.<br /><br />You never know, maybe one of them will write the next "Living Synergistically" jingle!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-24544283252176550582010-09-20T23:03:58.418-05:002010-09-20T23:03:58.418-05:00One of my thoughts as to why LGATs inculcate the &...One of my thoughts as to why LGATs inculcate the "no victims" paradigm is so that . . . LGAT victims will not see themselves as LGAT victims! "Victim" is an unenlightened and disallowed view, and those who *have* been victimized are left without means to identify exactly what's going on. A tricky set-up, and it's one which allows LGATs to dodge that 'accountability' thing they push on the followers. "No victims" is in line with the "no gossip" rules of LGATs & cults: when followers cannot "gossip" (er, talk) about others in the group-cult, notes will neither be exchanged nor concerns addressed amongst the followers regarding the slimy leaders.<br /><br />Love love love your style, Connie!!<br /><br />I LOL when I read you!<br /><br />BarbaraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-54985082306176932012010-09-04T15:03:30.677-05:002010-09-04T15:03:30.677-05:00"One thing I can't seem to let go of, how..."One thing I can't seem to let go of, however, is that there is kind of a double standard"<br /><br />Connie, can you please clarify what the "double standard" you perceive that you are being held to or being expected to adhere to by me or anyone re: anonymity? I don't get what you mean it. <br /><br />AND <br /><br />"Anon, anonymity is a common ploy in Net discourse."<br /><br />ploy –noun <br />1. a maneuver or stratagem, as in conversation, to gain the advantage. <br /><br />It is my view that anonymity is a common and acceptable and advised practice on the www. How is that you frame it as a "ploy" when it comes to contributers to a blog? I thought anonymity was a prudent and reasonable approach to entering into a random www discussion where one has no control over who has access to it. But a "ploy"? I just don't want strangers calling or showing up at my house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-55694706205366262992010-09-04T14:24:17.313-05:002010-09-04T14:24:17.313-05:00Got it Connie.
Thank-you.
Your # 1 "die-...Got it Connie. <br /><br />Thank-you. <br /><br />Your # 1 "die-hard fan", <br /><br />Anonymous AnonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-40712150634371971682010-09-04T12:28:01.212-05:002010-09-04T12:28:01.212-05:00I meant to add something to my remark about "...I meant to add something to my remark about "ad hominem" comments. In the interests of fairness and looking at it from both sides, I have at times resorted to what could be construed ad "ad hominem" when I speculate, Anon, about your personal agenda -- e.g., which LGAT(s) or guru(s) I imagine you to be specifically attempting to defend (or from whom I imagine you are attempting to deflect criticism). I have also criticized you more than once for choosing to remain Anonymous and not revealing more about your agendas and beliefs.<br /><br />I realize many would argue that my bringing up these points about you is actually an attempt to introduce (here's that 'c' word again) context into the discussions here. Many would contend that if you are, say, a die-hard fan of a given LGAT or are a faithful follower or affiliate of someone I criticize, that *is* relevant information and would help other participants more objectively evaluate your ideas.<br /><br />That may be true, but as you are not willing to be forthcoming about your identity or affiliations then the discussion has to center around the ideas and points themselves. And I think that for the most part we have stuck to these points.<br /><br />One thing I can't seem to let go of, however, is that there is kind of a double standard here. People such as Ron, Steve, and I write under our own identities. Yes, I use the cute moniker "Cosmic Connie" and Ron uses "Rev Ron," but our real identities are out there for all to see. Even Salty Droid has revealed his real identity. By being critics, we're putting ourselves at personal risk (death threats and the like) and, to a certain extent, professional risk every day. Our detractors for the most part remain safely anonymous, as is their prerogative of course. As you've pointed out yourself, Anon, anonymity is a common ploy in Net discourse.<br /><br />Regarding ad hominem and the questions about participants' agendas, I do think that when strong opinions are expressed, people who disagree with those opinions are more likely to want to know the personal agendas and motivations of the one expressing those opinions. We're less likely to dig for such information about those with whom we agree. This is true in online discourse about self-help as well as in discussions about politics and religion. Funny how that works. :-)Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-85862452075317659812010-09-04T11:54:08.213-05:002010-09-04T11:54:08.213-05:00Anon, it seems that both Ron and I have a tendency...Anon, it seems that both Ron and I have a tendency sometimes to resort to sarcasm and snide remarks when relatively calm and rational explanations of our point of view continue to result in the same "I know you are but what am I" responses from *our* critics and detractors. We've explained our positions over and over and over. You don't agree with them and we don't agree with your positions, so why can't we just agree to disagree?<br /><br />I will say, though, that it seems you have a different definition of "context" than either Ron or I do. <br /><br />I think all of us are guilty of the ad hominem remarks at times. I know I see them all the time from the true believers who speculate that critics of self-help think the way they do because of rage, jealousy, feelings of inadequacy, etc. A given critic may indeed be jealous or envious and sometimes angry, but that doesn't make the scammers any less scammy.<br /><br />And by the way -- in response to one of your earlier remarks -- I've *never* categorically condemned everyone who is "engaging with the ideas of Buddhism, philosophy, esoteric and metaphysical ideas in groups settings." I do snark about scammy, transparently money-grubbing gimmicks such as Joe Vitale's and Craig Perrine's Attract Miracles "Community." Group "intentions" have never been proven to change anything or do much except line the pockets of your Maharishis and Joe Vitales and such. Group *actions*, on the other hand, have effected real change.Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-32983059600139325292010-09-03T21:00:46.262-05:002010-09-03T21:00:46.262-05:00Ronnie
sarcasm is all about you and your great sk...Ronnie<br /><br />sarcasm is all about you and your great skills at sticking it to others. Rather then defining or deepening a discussion for looking at how context is or is not relevant to this exchange - it is you that obfuscates. But it is not you, I notice that most internet critics go to similiar places that you do when challenged in any way. Most resort to emotional sarcastic ad homynims much like yourself when they do not get the agreement and cultish agreement they seek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-52561082903512578602010-09-03T20:00:47.429-05:002010-09-03T20:00:47.429-05:00At least the passive aggressiveness is more entert...At least the passive aggressiveness is more entertaining than the obfuscation, which grew tiresome long ago. Reminiscent of Vitale's standard sign-off when he's trying to mask his anger: "blessings." It's all in the context. :-)RevRon's Rantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07786080982796903930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-35743829907296139042010-09-03T13:23:02.308-05:002010-09-03T13:23:02.308-05:00btw super Ronnie
"...glowing praise..."...btw super Ronnie <br /><br />"...glowing praise..." and context are not the same thing and never were. Did you not know that? I see now that we were just two ships passing in the night. You do not know what context is. I don't fault you for not knowing everything. <br /><br />I still like you. You are a great man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-90033635818331946102010-09-03T13:19:03.670-05:002010-09-03T13:19:03.670-05:00Ok Ronnie. Keep on with the good fight against th...Ok Ronnie. Keep on with the good fight against the ocean of evil trying to dupe the dimwit little world of people not quite as savvy as you. Thank Allah for you. If it were not for the education you give of no charge $$$$ where might we be??? You are the thin line between planetary slavery and feedom. What a guy! An on-line braveheart! <br /><br />Thanks for just being you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-52935195750199594772010-09-03T12:59:29.247-05:002010-09-03T12:59:29.247-05:00"Despite saying the matter was going to be le..."Despite saying the matter was going to be left, I would like to add this one more bit..."<br /><br />Wow! THAT was a surprise! :-)<br /><br />You really can't see that you're furiously attempting to dig yourself out of a hole, can you? <br /><br />And you might consider the fact that one need not offer glowing praise to crap in order to be "fair and balanced." One only need be truthful, which Connie is, unfailingly.<br /><br />As Connie has said before (albeit more gently than I), if the discussion is so offensive to you, perhaps you should find a forum more to your liking. You're not going to change this one, any more than you were able to change Steve's or mine before being banned. Obnoxiousness can only carry you so far, and the blogs in question don't suffer fools very well.RevRon's Rantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07786080982796903930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-11436591337416624552010-09-03T12:27:38.246-05:002010-09-03T12:27:38.246-05:00Haha. you funny and light with the notes. That is ...Haha. you funny and light with the notes. That is why I come and why many people (in parts at least) adire and adore your hairey hunched over club weilding yet effeminate self I suspect. <br /><br />Thank-you. <br /><br />P.S Did not know that person had given you his approval.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-70264560746632116602010-09-03T12:21:32.842-05:002010-09-03T12:21:32.842-05:00HHH, no worries about the swearing; I mainly try t...HHH, no worries about the swearing; I mainly try to avoid it on my own posts and I generally don't publish obscenity-laden comments. But I suppose an occasional bullsh-t is okay.Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-60253025135651748752010-09-03T12:19:05.626-05:002010-09-03T12:19:05.626-05:00Cowardly and Neanderthal...yup, that's me desc...Cowardly and Neanderthal...yup, that's me described to a tee. <br /><br />The person you mentioned whose name I played on is well aware of my writing about him and has even participated in this forum. And he has been a good sport about it too. He's actually quite proud of his quirky experimentation -- which he has described in detail on numerous blog posts -- and he realizes that many people disapprove of his choices, but he seems to take it in stride.<br /><br />Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go out and hunt some critters for dinner, and gather firewood for the cave. Hunting is hard to do when one is a coward so I'll probably stick with small non-threatening life forms such as squirrels and grubs. Them cows out thar are looking kind of tasty too but they're big and intimidating.Cosmic Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425191794680677900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-30076917615667619382010-09-03T11:16:48.050-05:002010-09-03T11:16:48.050-05:00Connie,
I can't say I am an opinion one way ...Connie, <br /><br />I can't say I am an opinion one way or the other about the person you are taking the shot at but how dare you call someone "Pervl--a".<br /><br />Would you dare to utter your clever play on that person's name if you were standing in a local bar or in a bank line up and that person was standing next to you listening to an exchange between you and a third person? The freedom people feel to slander and smear others behind their backs on-line is breathtaking IMO.<br /><br />That somehow people who end up in the public eye or spotlight are "fair-game" is one of the saddest aspects on our neandertal media and internet useage I have seen.<br /><br />Not too mention cowardly at times. And all that and I don't even know who you are talking about. :-) Nor do I need to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-84980947076202698142010-09-03T09:39:12.394-05:002010-09-03T09:39:12.394-05:00Rev Ron
Am I deflecting attention away from the...Rev Ron <br /><br />Am I deflecting attention away from the subjects of your commentary? I see it that I am disagreeing with you and I am if anything directing attention towards, not you , but on the quality or incompetence of your commentary on the topic, and that that is not unreasonably far from the topic IMO, and that I am on safe grounds on this. I am not switching the topic to movies or food or Obama or the weather. <br /><br />Ronnie, do you view that any contributor who does agree with you or who does not forward your point of view on this topic as "transparently deflecting attention away" from the topic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-81817512542036707102010-09-03T08:20:16.426-05:002010-09-03T08:20:16.426-05:00"It seems to me that the only "context&q..."It seems to me that the only "context" with which you would truly be satisfied would be one that painted my subjects in a far rosier light."<br /><br />Nope. That sounds like I want you to be a cheerleader or a advertiser for someone else. Not what I am saying at all. <br /><br />I am talking abut providing a balanced and fair and more complete light. There is a reason millions of smart savvy successful decent people are engaging with the ideas of Buddhism, philosophy, esoteric and metaphysical ideas in groups settings, besides just the notion you have that they are all duped or weak or needy or vulnerable. There are also the reasons they are actually saying they are and you give very little value to that and second guess individuals who make the choice to pwersue such educations and put all the emphasis on your opinion that big bad evil self serving guru leaders are pulling the wool over people's eyes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-79031156874245538902010-09-03T08:12:10.306-05:002010-09-03T08:12:10.306-05:00Despite saying the matter was going to be left, I...Despite saying the matter was going to be left, I would like to add this one more bit, so at least it is understood what I meant by the word. Wikepedia is pretty close though not entirely, in how I am using the word context: <br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context<br /><br />"Context is the surroundings, circumstances, environment, background, or settings which determine, specify, or clarify the meaning of an event."<br /><br />I was saying that these above are all missing from your blogs and when missing - words and actions are left = nonsense.<br /><br />An you may give lip service to context, but world you agree that you and Steve and Ron do not provide a balanced and fair and complete view of surroundings, circumstances, environment, background, or settings which determine, specify, or clarify the meaning of an events or words you are discussing? It would be almost impossible to do so IMO Just providing a link to the thing you are talking about does not provide, create and presence context in a way that gives a thing the world it needs to be fully understood. In that way your critiques are unbalanced. <br /><br />So when you mock something and say that it is nonsense, it in fact may be nonsense and look like nonsense and that is because you are leaving out the context.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31759120.post-55172715521409736712010-09-03T07:04:19.705-05:002010-09-03T07:04:19.705-05:00Con, both you and Ron deny that you take anything...Con, both you and Ron deny that you take anything out of context. I could say more but I think I said enough about context on this thread. I will leave it there. <br /><br /><br />Thanks Connie. xo<br /><br />Your own personal adoring critic, <br /><br />AnonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com